Eastern Front Battlefield Relics

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I assume that most of the milsurp regulars have an interest in more than just the guns, so I thought I would put up this page of battlefield pickups from Russia that I found on another board...

Guns, bombs, bones...

http://www.treasurenet.com/f/index.php/topic,27618.0.html
http://www.treasurenet.com/f/index.php/topic,27694.0.html
http://www.treasurenet.com/f/index.php/topic,31684.0.html
http://www.treasurenet.com/f/index.php/topic,31388.0.html
http://www.treasurenet.com/f/index.php/topic,27619.0.html

Get a load of the Mosin from a bog! I bet you could clean it and shoot it!
 
Disgracefull

Hey Ollie,

I agree with Sigismund here.

Keeping the Human skull is being a low life piece of scum grave robber.

Even though it is a German skull and the Germans were the BAD guys during the war, they should leave the dead in peace. I have relatives who died duing the two world wars on our side and if anyone ever dug them up I would loose it.

Cam
 
Yeah that's really not cool, one dead warrior deserves as much respect as another(and respect is not being spat on or used as a bookend)...but all the gear this guy finds, wow! I wonder if what he says is true, that the German govt. refuses to repatriate thier eastern front dead.

So far, I have noticed 2 mosins, a DP 28(i think) Machine gun drum and some MG I can't I.D. I'm also curious about some of the rifle rounds he shows-one of them looks like a 7.62x39! Wouldn't that be quite a rare find on a WW2 battlefield?
 
Where my family is from, on their property, is the site where large elements of Schorner's Army group surrendered to the advancing Soviets in the Spring of 1945. Everything was dumped there and in surrounding areas. Over the years I have used a detector to recover everything from helmets and field gear to firearms and medals/badges, much in surprisingly good condition.
The further East you go, you tend to see alot of gravedigging and robbing. I have never witnessed this myself, but have heard the stories.
I consider graves/battlefields and such sacred ground, and have never intentionally dug in one. Besides, there is plenty of relics lying in almost every foot of soil on our property. The grave robbing does more than freak and creep me out. Guys should be locked up.
 
The German government continually build beautiful new cemetaries for their First and Second war dead recovered even after 60 plus years. Truly magnificent. Oddly, many of the Soviet cemetaries are mass graves, unmarked and unkempt. I witnessed a First War cemetary recovery years ago, German soldiers were moving the fallen from a field to a new location. This was in Slovakia, so not sure what is going on further east.
 
Serpent's Walls

Go see there: http://www.serpentswall.com/index.html
That site is the work of a young Russian woman who explores the bunkers and battle sites surrounding her native town, Kiev.
For centuries, Kiev has never ceased to be the target of invaders, the last being the Nazis. In the ground, layer upon layer, history lays since the Tatars.
But the newer artifacts can be the more deadly ones: corroded mines, old ordnance with unstable picric acid fuses, unexploded shells.
This is what she unearths as a hobby. :eek:
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Also there is a group of Russians that dig up the bones and any id, items. They get paid for the German ones and sometimes for the Russian ones, they estimate in one area the bones of 200,000 men lay.
 
Cam_S said:
Hey Ollie,

I agree with Sigismund here.

Keeping the Human skull is being a low life piece of scum grave robber.

I disagree. If some army were to invade Canada,murder millions of us,skin some of us alive to make lampshades and inflict untold horrors upon our civilization, you gotta know if i killed one I'd make a toilet out of his skull!:mad:
Waxing nostalgic about these so called "warriors" does the victims of these ####bags a disservice.Like a kick in the balls!
Give you head a shake:rolleyes:
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I don't think that fellow was keeping any of the bones he found. It seemed like he was turning them in to graves registration more or less.
 
true north said:
Cam_S said:
Hey Ollie,

I agree with Sigismund here.

Keeping the Human skull is being a low life piece of scum grave robber.

I disagree. If some army were to invade Canada,murder millions of us,skin some of us alive to make lampshades and inflict untold horrors upon our civilization, you gotta know if i killed one I'd make a toilet out of his skull!:mad:
Waxing nostalgic about these so called "warriors" does the victims of these ####bags a disservice.Like a kick in the balls!
Give you head a shake:rolleyes:
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THis is just a ridiculous post, are you sure you know the difference between the nazi party member and a German soldier who freezes to death in the russian bush?
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1.What this guy found is pure treasure:cool: and I enjoyed those awsome pics.
2. If it walks like a duck(or a nazi) and talks like a duck(or a nazi)must be a duck(or a nazi).If they are found wearing a swastika it should be assumed they are the worst type of human until proven otherwise.
Jennis. I'm not talking about strata-nazis or pc nazis.I'm talking about swastika wearing, 1940's era shoot your baby in the back of the head Nazis
 
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Yikes! Hopefully I can change the tone of this post! Here are some relics my friend and I dug on my family's property. Once again, these are not grave digs, basically just a huge dumping ground for the Wehrmacht. Enjoy:) It's history.
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Have done a little of this in Holland and am going back in 3 weeks......Don't know about the ethics of prodding around in Swedish cemetaries like this guy but I,ll bet the German and Russian Bodies were never interred.These bodies are laying all over Russia in Forests ,Bunkers and trench systems.Keep in mind the battles fought on the Eastern Front were gigantic compared to Canadian actions in Holland Belgium France and Germany.Body recovery and interment was very sporadic for russians(mass graves) and almost impossble for German,Italian,Rumanian,Hungarian,and other Axis units.In many cases these fellows are lying where they fell 65 years ago.Discovery is not that difficult with proper maps of the actions. Don't know if a German skull is appropriate on the mantle though.
 
true north said:
I disagree. If some army were to invade Canada,murder millions of us,skin some of us alive to make lampshades and inflict untold horrors upon our civilization, you gotta know if i killed one I'd make a toilet out of his skull!:mad:
Thats the same sentiment motivating the guy who made the lamp shade.

I think that making trophies from human remains is a sign that an individual has become mentally sick from hatred, regardless of what language the victim spoke or what threat the person believes they are defending civilization from.

BTW, unless it shows very asiatic traits, how would you know if a dis-articulated skull on a battlefield belongs to a German or a Russian?
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