Educate me - Jon boats & hunting canoes!
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That's amazing. I was actually hoping that the "new" 14' deep duck boats by the new Scott/Abitibi were up to snuff. Any chance you are looking to sell your 14'?
I sold my 14' when I got the 16'... and I've been kicking myself ever since... if you can get a 14' Deep Duck it would be perfect for what you are looking for... they are super stable, handle rougher water and haul a heavier load than any equally sized Jon boat.
Nice pics Ted... and I love freighter canoes, but NOT when their is portaging involved... they are brutally heavy beasts.
The small Scott 18' freighters are what we used for moose hunting until we switched to the 16' Deep Duck Boat's.
Is that a 21' or 22' in the pictures?
The small Scott 18' freighters are what we used for moose hunting until we switched to the 16' Deep Duck Boat's.
Is that a 21' or 22' in the pictures?
I did find this: The Old Town Discover Sport. 15' of stability, with a massive 1650-lb capacity. At 113-lb dry, it'll take two adults to get this on the roof rack, but the tradeoff is that it can handle upto a 5hp outboard.
That looks nice... 113 pounds dry is no trouble for one person to load... I used to load my 14' by myself at 140 pounds... be sure to get it in olive drab... not a shiny gel coat.
I did find this: The Old Town Discover Sport. 15' of stability, with a massive 1650-lb capacity. At 113-lb dry, it'll take two adults to get this on the roof rack, but the tradeoff is that it can handle upto a 5hp outboard.
Some of your info on the 15' Discovery is wrong... this is from the Old Town website (take note of the HP rating and weight Capacity);
FEATURES;
Three nylon web seats
Vinyl gunwales
Comfortable carrying handles
Extremely durable three layer polyethylene
Oar socket and lock kit included (not installed)
Square stern accommodates up to 4 H.P. motor*
SPECS;
Material#- Three Layer Polyethylene
Length#15' 3"/ 4.6 m
Width#40" / 101.6 cmWidth at 4" Waterline#39.5" / 100.3 cm
Bow Height#25.5" / 64.8 cm
Depth#15" / 38.1 cm
Weight#113 lbs / 51.3 kg
Max Capacity#850 lbs /385.5 kg
Suggested Retail#$1,599.99 USD
Good catch. I found the Old Town on the LL Bean website, which clearly has the wrong info:
Paddle or motor to your favorite fishing hole in this stable, comfortable boat
Stable design is ideal for fishing
Square-stern accommodates up to a 5 horsepower motor
Exceptionally durable construction
Old Town's durable three-layer polyethylene offers a rugged, maintenance-free hull. Square-stern design and wide beam create a remarkably stable craft. The wide beam of this boat also offers more stability for casting than conventional canoes. Load on your car or truck and paddle or motor from the put-in to your favorite spot. Rugged construction withstands dragging through shallow water. Comfortable nylon-web seats and rugged vinyl gunwales. It can also be converted into a rowing boat; oarlock kit sold separately. Accepts outboard motor up to 5 hp. Made in Maine.
Dimensions 15'3"L x 40"W.
Bow height 25½".
Capacity 1,650 lb., 850 lb. and four people when motor is used.
Weight Approx. 113 lb.
Paddle or motor to your favorite fishing hole in this stable, comfortable boat
Stable design is ideal for fishing
Square-stern accommodates up to a 5 horsepower motor
Exceptionally durable construction
Old Town's durable three-layer polyethylene offers a rugged, maintenance-free hull. Square-stern design and wide beam create a remarkably stable craft. The wide beam of this boat also offers more stability for casting than conventional canoes. Load on your car or truck and paddle or motor from the put-in to your favorite spot. Rugged construction withstands dragging through shallow water. Comfortable nylon-web seats and rugged vinyl gunwales. It can also be converted into a rowing boat; oarlock kit sold separately. Accepts outboard motor up to 5 hp. Made in Maine.
Dimensions 15'3"L x 40"W.
Bow height 25½".
Capacity 1,650 lb., 850 lb. and four people when motor is used.
Weight Approx. 113 lb.
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I had a hand in designing the Scott 16' Deep Duck Boat... I can't take any credit for the design concept, which is excellent, as Scott previously released the 14' Deep Duck Boat. I owned the 14' and absolutely loved the platform, it was a fantastic small fishing, ducking, hunting craft. I started thinking about how nice a larger boat would be with the same "reverse chine V-bow concept." I contacted Scott (Mid-Canada) with my ideas and was invited up to the New Liskeard factory to talk about them... I spent a day at the factory, and our ideas of that day became the 16' Deep Duck Boat... the factory gave me the first production boat, which I still use to this day. I ran the 14' with an 8 H.P and the 16' with a 15 H.P... which moves them along eben under load. Here are a couple pics of the 14' and 16' Deep Ducker's;
14' Deep Duck;
16' Deep Duck;
Hoyt you need to shoot smaller Moose or get a bigger boat!!! LOL
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That bull actually got towed... but the camp, two hunters and all the gear, and the bull came out in one trip with the 16' DD and a canoe.
Thats a nice rack Hoyt.....the moose, not you
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Ya know what they say about one pic being worth 1,000 words? That one says it all IMO!16' Deep Duck;
Not running a go-devil, but a scavenger backwater motor that has served for around 10 years with only belts and oil changes. That poor motor has been abused and it just continues to chug away and push the boat anywhere you want as long as there is either enough water or mud of the right consistency, its not fast, it is not pretty but it works.
I have also run the Swamp Runner Thai long tail motors and they're fine for smaller boats and less extreme cases of rough use and heavy weeds and shallow water. The direct drive shaft made me nervous at first, until I saw the recycled aluminum prop that will clearly fail before you break your shaft or cook a bearing.
If you are comfortable with the price of a go-devil motor here in Canada I very much doubt you'd be disappointed by the service one would give you.
Compared to a conventional outboard, they are slower (depending on model, prop etc), can be a pain when stowing or hauling the boat and some don't make the same really tight turns but they definitely get you places far beyond they reach of an out board. I don't know if there would trolling challenges with one but as a method of propulsion they are nothing to sneeze at if you're running it in shallow heavily vegetated water. In shallow rocky waters I think a jet would be superior.
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