Educate me on muzzle brakes/flash hiders

Glenfilthie said:
Well he's right - on alot of things they run on a profit margin so technically there is more money to be made on a more expensive item. When last I looked - 10% of 150 bucks was more money than 10% of thirty bucks.

But what of it? These guys have to make a buck or they go out of business, you lose a supplier and nobody wins.


If they do a good job we should help them out.
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100% agree on helping the dealers that do a good job.
browsing OST right now for my next purchase... haha

on some of the more expensive f/h or comps though, the dealers might not see 10% on them. it is possible. this is why guys like larue choose to sell directly to the public. more margin.
 
Sigh.......Rivetc, you need to do more research.


The guys that know what they are doing put a lot of effort into their designs. Usually, in the case of the smaller single baffle brakes and comps they have to use more exotic materials just to withstand the pounding they take. That first baffle takes a lot of punishment in semi closed type designs.

For example, most of you know that the KAC Triple Tap is made out of inconel, a metal alloy that is extremely resistant to high heat stresses. The kind of heat encountered on SBR's and on rifles with a can. The Triple Tap is also partially wire edm'd with some slots being cut conventionally. Apparently they have to change the cutting tool after each piece because inconel is such a ##### to machine. So ya, the Triple Tap is a little more expensive than others to manufacture.

But then, it won't look like this after 400 rounds...
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This is an AAC Muzzle brake that was used on an SBR with a can. Notice the extreme erosion on the first baffle and the significant erosion on the second baffle. Granted we wouldn't see that type of erosion here in Canada, but it indicates what needs to be considered when making these devices.

They aren't all created equal. The good ones are worth every penny.
 
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Glenfilthie said:
Well he's right - on alot of things they run on a profit margin so technically there is more money to be made on a more expensive item. When last I looked - 10% of 150 bucks was more money than 10% of thirty bucks.
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:cheers:

Glenfilthie said:
From what I have heard the Purveyors of Death and Mayhem on this fine firearm forum operate at around 10~15%.

If they do a good job........ we should help them out.
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I need to use this as a Sig. Line. Laugh2





OMG!! My 6 month EE suspension is Over!!! I'M in Heaven!!!​
 
Battlecomp suppressors should be shipping shortly ;)






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Originally Posted by Glenfilthie View Post
Well he's right - on alot of things they run on a profit margin so technically there is more money to be made on a more expensive item. When last I looked - 10% of 150 bucks was more money than 10% of thirty bucks.
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He would be right if every manufacturer had the exact same margin/markup.

But they don't.

Like I said, I can make $18 on each YHM brake I sell or $37.50 on each Battlecomp I sell.

$37.50 sounds much better right!!!!!!! But that requires a client to pay $150 instead of $30. Five times the price!!!!! Gotta be an extremely good sales man to upgrade a client to the BC instead of the YHM that they wanted.

So if I have 5 YHM brakes in stock ($150) compared to 1 BC ($150) and I sell them all, then I'd make $90 on the YHM and $37.50 on the BC one.

Which would you recommend if you were in it for money?


Like I said before as well:

What is the ratio of Norc AR's to LMT, DD or KAC AR's in Canada?

How about the ratio of SKS's to SL8's?
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Anyway, the point is, I recommend gear that works and what fits with the clients budget and requirements. Margin/markup doesn't even register.

It's doesn't do me any good to oversell something, it's as bad as selling something cheap that falls apart on the client. That client probably wouldn't want to deal with me again if they regret the purchase.
 
Man all I know is take a peak at that Alberta Tactical Elimnator flash hider on you tube and the differences are well "amazing" to say the least. My latest PWS triad also is impressive!
 
OICU812 said:
Man all I know is take a peak at that Alberta Tactical Elimnator flash hider on you tube and the differences are well "amazing" to say the least. My latest PWS triad also is impressive!
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Their flash hiders are impressive, anyone compare their muzzle brakes?
 
They've been delayed due to paperwork. BC is still waiting to hear back on approval of their DOS registration. We just made them inactive on the website till we hear back on it.
 
Farmboy said:
They've been delayed due to paperwork. BC is still waiting to hear back on approval of their DOS registration. We just made them inactive on the website till we hear back on it.
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Thanks for the reply. Glad it's just paperwork and not something else. I'm interested in a 1.0 when you do finally get them in.
 
OICU812 said:
Man all I know is take a peak at that Alberta Tactical Elimnator flash hider on you tube and the differences are well "amazing" to say the least. My latest PWS triad also is impressive!
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I put a triad on my xcr, I was fed up with the stock one, boy do I love it.
 
Farmboy said:
Actually the more expensive something is, the lower the profit margin and the harder to sell.

Surplus rifles bought at $100 can easily be sold for $200.

New rifles purchased at $1000 can not be sold for $2000.
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Yup, plus you can carry many more of the cheaper item than the expensive one.

For example, one can carry 3 S&W M&P 15's for the same investment as a Swiss Arms... but you make the same amount of money when selling one M&P or one Swiss Arms.
 
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