Educate me on Quiet 22 or 17

I tried the cci quiets for beaver, but even at very close range they are not powerful enough.

I like em.

But I spent a bunch of time getting used to the trajectory, and they are definitely not a round for use when you do not need or want the quietness.

Anyone who figures there is some sort of magic answer to the problem of noise levels, has to understand that the solution comes with trade-offs, usually in the form of velocity and/or energy reductions.

This holds true in the bigger calibers and in the use of sound suppressors too. The guys in the US using suppressed guns in calibers like the Blackout series, typically use a very heavy bullet for the caliber, running at subsonic speeds, so as to carry the energy out to the target, and the price for that is a heavy arc of the trajectory to deal with. There is no free lunch!

CCI Quiets are simply a down-loaded long rifle case and bullet. They move very much slower than a standard or high velocity round, and as a result, they do not have the terminal performance that many seem to think that they should.

For all their hype, the Aquila SSS rounds are simply a longer heavier bullet mounted on a Short size case with a light load of powder. Most .22's that I have heard of, tend not to be able to shoot them well, as the twist rate is not fast enough to stabilize the longer bullet. And they are hardly good enough ammo to pay for a fast twist barrel for.

End of day, you have to deal with the terminal results and adjust your shot choices and placement, to the slower moving rounds, if you want them to be effective killers. They will not immobilize a beaver with a body shot, you need to hit brain/spine to do that. A very small target to hit reliably. Better to have the noise.
 
Invest in a reloading set-up instead of a new rifle and then download your centerfire rifles... I have excellent TB loads for .222, .223, .22-250, .243, 7X57, .308, .358, .44 and .45/70.
 
Invest in a reloading set-up instead of a new rifle and then download your centerfire rifles... I have excellent TB loads for .222, .223, .22-250, .243, 7X57, .308, .358, .44 and .45/70.

Yea after reading up and all the forum posts (you guys are great) I'm going with my .223 for now with lighter loads and a forward muzzle break.
 
Yea after reading up and all the forum posts (you guys are great) I'm going with my .223 for now with lighter loads and a forward muzzle break.

While I've never "loaded down" anything, I think it sounds like a great way to achieve different results in a given caliber. I know somebody who loads down .45/70 and shoots grouse with it! lol (you know who you are :) ) As for those CCI Quiets~I've shot barn pigeons with them LOTS of times and unless you can make a head/vitals shot...a body shot won't even quickly dispatch one of those things. I mean, they're soft enough targets that the bullet passes right through most times so they're doomed...but I'd never dream of shooting something the size of a beaver with them.

trevj is SPOT on~picking any given caliber means you're choosing both the strengths, AND limitations of it. I'm considering a rifle in 17 Hornet right now but had promised myself "no more 17s". lol Then I look at what I like to shoot, where I'm able to shoot, how far I'm LIKELY to shoot...and the 17 Hornet starts making sense again. Very varmint-specific caliber of course, but it's what I "hunt" most...and I can used a centerfire that small (low report) at the local farm I have permission to shoot on.
 
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