Effect of barrel length on velocity (.375 H&H)

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Just got back from the range where I chrono'd three different barrel-length .375 H&H's: A Brno 602 w/25" barrel; a Ruger Magnum (Model 77) w/ 23 inch barrel and a Winchester Model 70 with a shortened 20.5" (magnaported) barrel.

Three different bullets were tested, 300 grain Hornady Interlock (RN); 300 grain Hornady Interbond (RN) and 270 grain Hornady Spire Point

The powder used with the 300 grain bullets was IMR 4064 ("near (i.e. within 1 grain of) max")

The powder used with the 270 grain bullet was H414 (also a "near max" load)

Here's how the results worked out (velocities are the average using a four-shot string (occasionally 3 or 5 shots were taken)):

300 grain Hornady Interlock: Brno(25")= 2,418fps; Ruger(23")= 2,380fps; Win(20.5")=2,252fps

300 grain Hornady Interbond: Brno(25")= 2,439fps; Ruger(23")=2,397fps; Win(20.5")=2,301fps

270 grain Hornady SP: Brno(25")=2,662fps; Ruger(23")=2,630 fps; Win(20.5")=2,493fps


Having a chance to shoot the rifles one after the other, I would have to say that the recoil from the shortened Winchester was noticably less than the other two.

In addition, the 300 grain loads seemed to consistently produce less recoil than the 270 grain bullet.

Accuracy (at 100 and 200 yards) was very good with all three rifles. There wasn't a load that didn't seem to shoot well.

There you go. Not the final word on barrel length and velocity, but it gives you an idea of what's going on.
 
Great post, how's the shoulder?

Shooting it all from the bench called for a sissy pad. :D

Set up that way the .375's were pretty easy to tolerate, but then I zero'd a new scope for (and chrono'd) the .416 Rigby (CZ 550) during the same session.

The shoulder's going to be just fine.:) That said, shooting these rifles from a standing position is a lot easier to take than off the sandbags.
 
thank you so much for that - i have been asking for info such as this for my 18 1/2 inch .375 load work ups

I have loaded a few (all with tsx 270 gr) with imr 3031, ww 748, rl 15, H4350, ww760 and verget to see just what may happen

it wont be a definitive test - but i want to try and see what powder in that length will give me the best velocity -- then i will work to accuracy.

i suspect the faster powder will give the best burn rate and hopefully the most efficient expansion in the short bbl
 
I know, necro thread. I dropped 125fps going from 25 1/2" to 20" in my CZ with 270gr Hornady over 75gr of Varget. Working up a RL15 load to chrono tomorrow.
 
Showed about the same loss of 20-25fps/inch for shortening the barrel from 25 1/2" to 20". FYI, my factory 338WM carbine chronos 25fps/inch slower than the 24" test barrels in 2 different manuals I looked at.
 
Welcome to the dark side. What is the length of barrel to the start of the magnaporting? That's where any increase in bulet velocity would be lost.
20" 30-30 is the longest thing I own. No moose has ever noticed the difference.
 
Welcome to the dark side. What is the length of barrel to the start of the magnaporting? That's where any increase in bulet velocity would be lost.
20" 30-30 is the longest thing I own. No moose has ever noticed the difference.

If memory serves, it was no more than 3/4" to the magnaporting.

I ended up taking the Ruger RSM to Africa in 2011 as a back-up for a Verney-Carron 450-400 3" NE double rifle that ended up failing on the test range (minutes before heading out for a cape buffalo hunt). The Ruger RSM took over without a hitch and saved the 15-day hunt.View attachment 161104
 

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My 19.5" 375 Ruger has no problem pushing 300gr Partitions to 2590 fps with Win 760

Interesting. I ended up using the 300 grain Swift A-Frames for most of the stuff I hunted (leopard, waterbuck, giraffe, warthog, zebra, klipspringer, civet, baboon) and used 380 grain "Rhinos" bonded/partition (South African) and 350 grain TSX's on three giraffe and at least one zebra. They all worked well. Velocities were about 2,400 fps with the A-Frames and barely 2,300 with the Rhinos. Recovered bullets, for the most part, showed good terminal performance. The A-Frame used on the leopard was a pass-through and the bullet was never recovered.

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My load is 78.6grs with the 300gr Partition, I worked up 81grs (2643 fps)

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