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I just sent one 700 Remington in to have the ejection spring replaced for the second time in two years. I thought this strange but when a brand new Remington stated doing the same thing it was apparent the spring isn't the issue. The new one is a wild cat 6.5 Ruger, a $2000 botched job that doesn't have one thing done correctly. Anyway after forming a few cases from 375 Ruger brass I find that when I slide the bolt back with the case the bolt drops it on the magazine as soon as the case clears the front bridge and side pressure is eliminated.

Any ideas what's up???

Jim
 
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It could be as the case is pushed sideways the rear of the case is contacting the bolt and causing the case to be disengaged from the extractor. Sometimes the end of the bolt needs a little beveling to allow a little clearance for the case when the ejector pushes it to the side....

Does this have the factory extractor or has that been altered?
 
Guntech the new one doesn't do it with 7mm Remington cases. I was thinking it may have something to do with rim thickness as the Ruger 375 cases are a little thinner. And the other Remington because of older brass that is just worn out.

Jim
 
Take the bolt out of the gun and check to see that the shell seats properly in the bolt, and as Guntech said, check that it pivots out of the bolt without the case binding.
 
I suspect the extractor is not taking a deep enough "bite" on the rim. I have encountered quite a few newer 700's (with the riveted extractor) with the problem you describe. In most of the problem cases the extractor metal close to the rivet has been forced hard against the bolt and extractor hook can not extend out far enough. I have drilled out the rivet, removed the extractor and bent it just enough so that when I re-rivet it in place the bevel of the hook extends out to the edge of the extractor recess in the bolt. This has worked in the guns I have encountered with this problem.
 
Boomer said:
Whats that big cloud of smoke I see off to the west??? Oh its just Dennis reading about another Sako extractor on a 700. :popCorn:
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That's a good one Boomer... :D

If it is already being installed it's probably too late... hopefully it always belongs to a careful man.
 
Curt said:
Please elaborate. What is the issue with doing that? I am not trying to be a smarta$$. I really don't know.
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It has to do with altering the strongest, safest bolt action made... by installing part of the Sako extractor system in a 700.

If you look at a 2 lug Sako action, there is a large piece of steel that rotates on the bolt body (referred to as a bolt guide) and when the bolt is in a closed position this prevents the extractor from blowing out the action towards your head, if there is a catastrophic case failure.

When the Sako extractor is installed in a 700, no one installs this ''bolt guide''... and there is absolutely nothing preventing the extractor from being blown out if there is a catastrophic case failure. This is not as serious to a right handed shooter at is is if a left handed person is shooting a right handed rifle... there have been serious injuries and at least one death in the US. Your brain is not a good back stop for this shrapnel.

There is a lot of controversy over this alteration and I don't care if one chooses to have this done, but I think it is important to know the down sides to having it done. It also causes the empty case to be thrown a lot higher and in some case hitting the scope tube on ejection. I don't feel there is anything positive about the conversion.

Here is a picture of a 2 lug Sako that had a catastrophic case failure and blew up... If you notice the ''bolt guide'' is bent, but it is in place and it deflected gasses and the extractor... it prevented it from coming almost straight back.

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Well ooppps!!!

Just what I needed to hear. One more screw up with rifles. So a fix for the problem might be as Ironnose says. Will this work to make up the difference in the rim diameter of the standard H&H cases and the new Ruger cases.

Jim
 
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