Elcan Reticule Explanation
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Gunnerlove
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And the options are?
If you're working for Her Majesty -- None. (Well, maybe backup irons can be considered an option if you ever get furious and pitch the Elcan at the enemy)
Diagram in message above this is neat to know. I've said this a thousand times to anybody who puts up with me. LOVED the glass. LOVED the pointer. Really handy at making bullets go where I wanted them. Right up until it broke.
Since I'm not working for HM any more -- I use Leup tactical scopes. (I dislke their CQB scopes, especially the price tag.) The regular 3-9 scopes are good for service matches. The 9x is "nice" sometimes, but the 3x is critical for 100m snap. Hold zeroes better than Elcan. I still miss that pointer. I shot better scores with it than I do with the Leups. Probably more to do with time spent training than gear....
I'm happy to hear that. In 99 I had a bit of an issue with a C79 in Bisley.
I went with 1R22eR and used one of thier rifles (coach "insisted" instead of using my own... I think they were something besides rack guns... and they sure grouped like something besides rack guns)
Anyway - I was recovering from a bad car accident and I had several broken ribs - so I coughed a lot and running was a challenge. I was shooting well, but not exactly white-hot, but I figured I was doing pretty alright considering my condition... Then sometime in the second week I noticed that the two sides of my windage screw were floating in a couple different directions. In all the ARA matches I wasn't adjusting the scope for wind at all, and it went unnoticed after the initial zeroing day.
So, in the shacks that night I tore it all apart and tidied up the base with teflon tape, loc-tite and a hammer.
Rolled it up to where the 200m zero should have been and went into the matches the next morning.After one sighter I was back in the game. I won the day's 1st match (Bisley Bullet) with a killer (IMO)50.5 at 200 on a fig14 and figured that life was good.
I had a bit of a road ahead to make up for the points that I hadn't been getting in the previous week, but not impossible.
The next match was 300m snap, just like CFSAC. And in that match I generally expect to see a 50.5 or better, so I was looking forward to THAT. My sighters were overlapping pinwheels, so I figured I was back in the game.
I fired a 25.5
The damn bolt broke after the first 5 shots. Two locking lugs and about 1/4 of the bolt face and the extractor came off. Luckily I was with the VanDoos and I know how to swear in BOTH official languages.
Anyway - it's tough to make up 25 points in the Grand Agg at Bisley. I stayed in the top 50, but that's about all.
Who knows how many rounds that bolt had fired in it's life... I'm pretty sure that the Army never tracked bolt life -- how could they because bolts were never married up to specific rifles and nobody kept logs. For all I know, that bolt had been in service since the first C7 hit the ground in Valcartier in (1986?)...
Anyway - the bolt, and the C79 ar both evidence that technology exists always in one of only two states. FAILED and ABOUT TO FAIL.
And the crap that the British Army calls food shuld be the subject of a separate thread. Seriously - I bought my own orange juice and milk every day to ward off scurvy and osteoperosis.
NavyShooter
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There's a grocery store not far from the camp now, last time I was over, I went and got a bunch of cans of beef-veggie soup, kept 'em in the van for lunches....saved me from the D-shaped cornish pasties, and the delightful Cheese and Onion Pasties.
They "condemned" spider huts are still standing the last time I visited (09) but the food isn't any better.
NS
They "condemned" spider huts are still standing the last time I visited (09) but the food isn't any better.
NS
I had some knd of sausage pasty thing on day one, and thought "not so bad." Then a two week run of cornish pasties broken only by one cheese and onion pasty made me revise my opinion. I used the milk machine to add a dollop of milk to a coffee and got whacked with a spoon. (really) Apparently if you want coffee with milk in it you must get it from the tin labeled "white coffee." The milk is for CEREAL only. If you try to pour a glass, you get hit with a spoon.
So - avoid osteoperosis by having cereal every day.
The first box lunch with a pasty, chocolate cookie thing, and Orange pop was (I thought) some kind of a joke... But it went on that way for a month. I kept checking the lunches being delivered to other teams because I thought maybe they were deliberately trying to make us weak and sick. But everybody was getting the same junk that we got...
I spent an hour trying to explain the the team Captain that there is provision in the CFAOs for "supplemental dietary allowance" that he ought to be looking into getting for us, since half the team was spending personal coin every day on fruit and milk at the Kipper version of the CANEX... I swear in both official languages, but I can't seem to haev a polite conversation with a VanDoo, so that didn't quite work out.
All in all I liked AFSAM much better. Even the huge spiders.
As an addition... I remember having info on the reticle in some BMQ books I have. Here a little drawing I did from the notes and papers I have. Cool thing is I noted all the stadias and gaps size in MILS of the reticle.
Cheers.
I dug through my range bag the other day and find an early commerical manual that shows what it is basicly in the picture.
The manual of ACOG specifically warned that the user shall not adjust the elevation and windage beyond the maximum. The dial does not stop at maxi,um -it just breaks. it is very clearly said in the manual.
It sounds like people are not reading the manual or are not taught this particular limit of ACOG.
NavyShooter
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Yeah, their food was/is awesome.
Gary ended up costing me $900 last year....remember the Brens Dewats he has? Well, I got hands on with them, and got a case of Bren envy...had to buy myself one when Wolverine had 'em in stock.
So, actually, it was more like $900 + shipping ($50) + Tax to the tune of about $1100.
That said, it looks damn fine in the office...and great when the PLF borrow it for their mess Dinners.
Gary ended up costing me $900 last year....remember the Brens Dewats he has? Well, I got hands on with them, and got a case of Bren envy...had to buy myself one when Wolverine had 'em in stock.
So, actually, it was more like $900 + shipping ($50) + Tax to the tune of about $1100.
That said, it looks damn fine in the office...and great when the PLF borrow it for their mess Dinners.
Gunnerlove
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If your POI keeps shifting to the left you will keep adjusting the scope to the right.If you have to do that every few hundred rounds................. What other options does the shooter have?
Well you could start aiming at other peoples targets with the hope of hitting your own.
No Gary and Julia preparing good food for us when I was there. We stayed in shacks at Pirbright --and not in the colloquial sense that I would describe all army barracks or accommodations as "shacks" -- I mean they were actually third-world SHACKS. And we ate in the mess there. Were Gord and Julia cooks at "Canada House" on Bisley?
My whining aside - it was my last year working for HM, and I had a choice of Australia or Bisley - and I took Bisley for the "Been There, Done That" of it. Nice Blazer. Still fits, actually -- but only because it was too big to start.
I stilll have my notes and these are my most distinct recollections:
1. Scope broke
,2. bolt broke
,3. Radway Green ammo is the dirtiest crap I've ever fired
4. caught the flu,
5. dog came into the barracks and hopped up on my rack for a pee, (really)
6. stole sheets from Irish Regt to redo my rack,
7. thank God the Yanks had a BBQ half-way through or I was gonna die from fried food
8. I shoot better in the rain (than the Omanis)
9. I liked AFSAM better than Bisley in every way, except the beer.
10. Ron Surrette likes me (well... tolerates, anyway) a LOT more when I am on a team he is coaching than he does when I am on a team he is competing against.
11. Some notes about prices in ### Shops in Soho on our ONE SINGLE DAY OFF - but I won't elaborate since this thread is already derailed enough.
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NavyShooter
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TB,
It's my thread, and I like where it's gone...derailed or not.
(Hey, did you every think you'd see a BREN in this thread???) Hrm...I wonder how hard it would be to make a scope bracket/stem to mount an Elcan on the BREN.....hmmm....
And yes, I'd concurr that Ron likes people on his team better....he actually spoke to me and answered questions when I was on the team with him. I still use a slight personalization of the Standing position which he taught me. Good enough to win Match 4 several years in a row.
NS
It's my thread, and I like where it's gone...derailed or not.
(Hey, did you every think you'd see a BREN in this thread???) Hrm...I wonder how hard it would be to make a scope bracket/stem to mount an Elcan on the BREN.....hmmm....
And yes, I'd concurr that Ron likes people on his team better....he actually spoke to me and answered questions when I was on the team with him. I still use a slight personalization of the Standing position which he taught me. Good enough to win Match 4 several years in a row.
NS
