Elcan Spectre DR vs. Trijicon Accupoint1-4x24

Desertrat said:
If that is as far as you will be using it, then I think you will like it a lot. Everyone that shoots my Tavor can't believe the clarity of the glass. But if I was to buy another one, I would look at the green reticule instead of red. Your eye picks it up so much better, compare it side by side and it definitely stands out.
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I am with you on that one, but the main reason wasn't necessarily due to visibility. It was mainly due to warranty.

From their warranty info: http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Trijicon/TR24 Spec Sheet.pdf

The original owner of the Trijicon® product registered with this card is entitled to repair or replacement (at our option) of the registered item if it should fail due to
defects in material or workmanship during normal use. This warranty specifically applies to the optical systems and metal structure of the product and does not
apply to the illumination system. The tritium lamp is warranted to glow for 5 years for orange night sights, 10 years in non-fiber optic scopes, 12 years in green
and yellow night sights or 15 years in fiber optic scopes from date of original manufacture. If repair is necessary, please contact our Customer Service
Department for return instructions. This warranty does not apply to defects caused by anything which is deemed abnormal, abusive, or improper including any
fault resulting from an accident or improper service.
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I'm not sure if what I put in bold is applicable, or if the TR24 system falls under the 15 year point because it has fiber optics.
 
I saw the accupoint at wholesale sports in Nanaimo and unfortunately they only had the red :(

However I am leaning more towards the trijicon now, which I thought I would never choose over the elcan. However the elcan is double the price which is a big deal. It doesnt seem to have alot going for it in comparison the the trijicon for double the money.
 
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Who makes the Elcan's integrated mount?

Also, has the OP considered the Vortex Viper PST 1-4?

Considerably cheaper than either of the 2 listed options, and pretty highly regarded.
Haven't used that particular optic, but I like the other PST's I've used.
 
AlbertanBound said:
I saw the accupoint at wholesale sports in Nanaimo and unfortunately they only had the red :(

However I am leaning more towards the trijicon now, which I thought I would never choose over the elcan. However the elcan is double the price which is a big deal. It doesnt seem to have alot going for it in comparison the the trijicon for double the money.
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PM sent.
 
Benito said:
Who makes the Elcan's integrated mount?
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Lower then the Body of the sight is all Elcan design, but it uses A.R.M.S. Throw Lever to secure it to the Rails.

You can buy just a mount for mounting Elcans older sights.
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Benito said:
Who makes the Elcan's integrated mount?

Also, has the OP considered the Vortex Viper PST 1-4?

Considerably cheaper than either of the 2 listed options, and pretty highly regarded.
Haven't used that particular optic, but I like the other PST's I've used.
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I like Vortex myself, have a few of them on hunting rifles. But the only experience that I've had with the 1-4x24 is with a friend of mine and his drains batteries, even when shut off. He hasn't been impressed with it in that regard.
 
C.Tremblay said:
Lower then the Body of the sight is all Elcan design, but it uses A.R.M.S. Throw Lever to secure it to the Rails.

You can buy just a mount for mounting Elcans older sights.
elcan_mount.jpg
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Yeah, I thought those looked familiar. My experience with A.R.M.S. mounts does not inspire me with confidence. Are there aftermarket alternatives to this mount?

As far as the PST goes, I haven't seen any noticeable battery drain on the 2.5-10x44 PST I had. I even stored it with batteries inside the compartment, and it ran as expected.
I might pick up one of the 1-4 PST's for my next AR, unless some comparably priced options with higher top-end magnification become available by then.
 
Benito said:
Who makes the Elcan's integrated mount?

Also, has the OP considered the Vortex Viper PST 1-4?

Considerably cheaper than either of the 2 listed options, and pretty highly regarded.
Haven't used that particular optic, but I like the other PST's I've used.
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I hadn't considered vortex until now and haven't had a lot of experience with em either. Who sells them even?
 
I'm thinking p&d sells them bc I bought my vortex spotting scope from them.
I'd encourage a look at the viper pst. It was in my final 3.
 
Pst's illumination is not daylight visible, hence it's slower on 1x for target acquisition.
The trijicon's only advantage over the elcan is weight.
The elcan has a better reticle and glass.
The trijicon also has a weird fish eye effect as well if you're not dead center in the eye box.
 
C.Tremblay said:
Hey so I originally bought the Elcan in 7.62x51 for my XCR-M, when I swapped up to a vortex scope I sold it. I missed it more than I can express haha. So I just replaced my EoTech EXPS3 and G33.STS multiplier on my XCR-L (7.62x39) with a 5.56x45 Elcan. I Personally have never shot an ACOG. But I am in love with the Elcan its like an Aimpoint in 1x(which I prefer over the EoTech, I have a vortex copy on my ruger 10/22) and its extremely clear and easy to shoot in 4x. I love that if your batteries die the sight is still fully functional, and I love the rain sights on the top. I put the ARD on it and on 1x you can kinda see it, but not enough to bother me. The ARD likes to collect snow and water making the rain sights a must have feature. Yesterday I was shooting skeet with it and then target shooting on 4x; the switching between is so easy and efficient. Yes I did just admit to skeet shooting with a 7.62x39, it was extremely fun :p I hit 3, 1 on the first shot. i must have shot close to 100 rounds in total though hahaha. I believe all the hype is true sorry TRD, and yes it is one the heavy side, but it is also built like a brick #### house, I am not afraid to beat my rifle around at all cause it takes all the abuse. All in all, if you are willing to spend the money, I would say get it.

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I don't want to be criticizing but skeet shooting with a rifle? Talk about " knowing what's behind your target I hope no one was near ( couple kilometers) were you was douing this cause this is really hazardous and your not supposed to target shoot with out back stop.


Sorry for the rant
 
SomIf I go with the trijicon where can I get a quick release mount? any that work on AR's would work on my rifle. And Long of the short of it is the elcan just a better optic? That making it worth the two k? Also if I buy an elcan should I pick it up in the 7.62 reticle or would the 556 work just as well?
 
AlbertanBound said:
SomIf I go with the trijicon where can I get a quick release mount? any that work on AR's would work on my rifle. And Long of the short of it is the elcan just a better optic? That making it worth the two k? Also if I buy an elcan should I pick it up in the 7.62 reticle or would the 556 work just as well?
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For a mount I got a Vortex ADR, DS Tactical out your way has them on their site and for a decent price. Works great for me, doesn't seem to have any POI shift when I take it on and off.
 
AlbertanBound said:
Ok I spotted some at wanstalls but it looks like the only difference is the traingle color? What did you mount yours on?
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I'm guessing you are speaking of the optic not the mount?

For the optic mount I used a 30mm Vortex ADR with the 2" offset on my Tavor (the one in the pic couple pages back).

Did you check your inbox? I sent you a PM about the Trijicon Accupoint.
 
They will on the outside with your breath, but I haven't had it fog on the inside. I'd prob be trying to send it back under warranty if it did. The coldest I've had it in is -18 and it had no prob plugging a coyote at 100yds.
 
The only thing that is going to be close to the optical clarity and brightness of the Elcan is the Nightforce.
If you are considering the Vortex line I would skip to the Sightron SIII 1-7. For about the same money it is a better scope IMHO.
If you don't plan to shoot beyond 200yds why not just look at the ACOG? Really durable with a great reticle.
Or one of the EoTech XPS series? They can be had with 7.62x39/300 blackout reticle and for under 200yds you may need a flip to the side magnifier but the price should be about the same as the Trijicon.

If you can afford it I would buy the Elcan, don't get the 7.62 reticle for a 7.62x39 though, it will be calibrated for 7.62x51.
If you are going to use it on a x39 then you might want to look at the Hi-Lux CMR-AK, the glass isn't as good as the others but it is still really good, especially considering it is a $400 scope.
Other than that maybe something with a regular Mildot and you will just have to learn your holdovers. Shouldn't be overly hard if you plan to keep shots under 200yds though.
 
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