Electronic ear muffs

Diddy said:
On the other hand, I equate Ear Protection like motorbike safety gear... too many people buy a $10k+ Bike, and cheap out on the Helmet the same way people will drop $1500 on an AR, then run the disposable foam earplugs as their only hearing protection.
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I agree with you 100%. I can buy another AR, can't say the same for my ears; the right one not working so well on account of said AR... funny that.
 
I just got a set of Howard Leight impact sport from Cabelas US. all in with postage and exchange was about$100. NNR is 22 Really improve ability to hear with them on and reduce noise well. I still use foam plugs under them for indoor range. Work well but seemed to be hard to fit with safety glasses. I still like them though

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Does anyone have experience with MSA Sordin Hearing Protection?

I am interesting in the following model: MSA Sordin Supreme Pro-X

I have used Peltor, Dillion, and Pro-Ears but they just do not hold up in wet weather. The Sordin's are waterproof so I am hoping they would last longer.

Comments?
 
The sordin stuff is good. I know a metro SWAT team that uses them all, and a couple master class IPSC guys that reccomend it.
 
yyyyy said:
The sordin stuff is good. I know a metro SWAT team that uses them all, and a couple master class IPSC guys that reccomend it.
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Well, if a SWAT team uses it, sign me up. I have always wanted a pair of tactical earmuffs. :D j/k

Thanks for the info, I might end up upgrading down the road, but for know I went with the ones at princess auto, they were on special.
 
Onagoth said:
Well, if a SWAT team uses it, sign me up. I have always wanted a pair of tactical earmuffs. :D j/k

Thanks for the info, I might end up upgrading down the road, but for know I went with the ones at princess auto, they were on special.
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If waterproofing and durability is and issue, or being able to hear sounds - Like a bad guy racking a slide....following the advice of a Tac30 team with high call volumes, huge training (ammo) budget, where it RAINS a lot, I imagine is a better product test and review than some safe-queen benchrest shooter or mall ninja's opinion for quality, durability, and sound quality....

Just trying to help... ;)
 
Cheap electronic earmuffs don't stand up. I went through two sets of the Peltor Soundtrap in about a year. They didn't stand up in wet weather or if I was sweating in the summer heat. They also went through AAA batteries like they were going out of style.

I then bought their more expensive SwatTac and have used them about twice a week, in all weather conditions, for close to 6 years. The sound quality is very natural as they supress loud noises instead of clipping them.

The best value IMO is the Peltor ProTac. Same electronics as the SwatTac/ComTac but with a higher NPR rating. They are available for around $250. I use the ProTac for rifle and indoor handgun and the SwatTac for shotgunning.

Yes they are more expensive than your price range but are worth every penny.
 
Bought the Princess Auto ones for 27 bucks shipping included. First pair were defective, but exchanged then in the store in Calgary. Second pair work real well actually. one range session, fairly comfortable to wear, and they work rather well.
 
yyyyy said:
If waterproofing and durability is and issue, or being able to hear sounds - Like a bad guy racking a slide....following the advice of a Tac30 team with high call volumes, huge training (ammo) budget, where it RAINS a lot, I imagine is a better product test and review than some safe-queen benchrest shooter or mall ninja's opinion for quality, durability, and sound quality....
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Bad move - always remember the tendering process plays a part, and the lowest bidder factor. Judge for yourself. ;)
 
So all swat teams should shoot STI IPSC open guns from Freedom Ventures? ;)

Sure,

But many special teams don't have to put things to tender, or they can use own personal items.

And tenders often have "operational compliance" factors like "must pass in house waterproofing ipx test."...

Many of the people I try to take advice from don't have operational or personal spending limits, so to speak... or also have sponsorship agreements where they could get whatever sponsor they want. Eg: Guys on high paid PSD teams that can choose whatever personal gear they want. They are going to choose what will keep them alive, not what is cool. (I hope!) There is a consensus, so to speak, around certain items.
There is not a consensus around hearing protection, but I could comment at least that this one team chooses this gear and they train pretty hard in wet conditions...
I do believe this hearing pro form Sordin in addition to being waterproof has the best NRR removing need for double plugging...
 
Onagoth said:
Well, if a SWAT team uses it, sign me up. I have always wanted a pair of tactical earmuffs. :D j/k

Thanks for the info, I might end up upgrading down the road, but for know I went with the ones at princess auto, they were on special.
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They provide very good ear protection. If they last only one year you can toss them and buy another pair. Mine aren't tactical but they work.

Take Care

Bob
 
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if you want to start cheaping out on earmuffs just start goign to your range and picking brass :)

1k of 45auto is worth $100 and 1k of 9mm is worth $40 right now on the "EE".... in no time you could have top of the line muffs ;)
 
yyyyy said:
So all swat teams should shoot STI IPSC open guns from Freedom Ventures? ;)
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:rolleyes: Of course not - they should be shooting STI Tacticals like the Danish Special Forces and the US Delta Team does.

I don't give a rats ass what an SWAT/Cool Guy in a black T-shirt/ERT/whatever was given or has selected for his "Raid".
I've met enough of them to know the majority don't know any better than an anonymous Internet poser who is infatuated by them.

I'm going to look at the products that the majority of experienced shooters have selected based on the same criteria I am going to employ myself.

I will agree with you on sponsorship; it should be identified and kept in consideration.
 
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"I've met enough of them to know the majority don't know any better than an anonymous Internet poser who is infatuated by them.

Yeah, I guess that is why they do what they do, and you do what you do...

Aren't Delta selects given a Wilson Combat CQB which is "assembled and handfitted by ONE smith while Bill Wilson personally inspects and tests it before it ships out?"

And of course the team carries the right weapon for the mission. There is no standard issue weapon for a Delta Team. "Secret teams" usually don't advertise what they are coming to shoot you with.

That said, yes, the Danish did buy STI's.
 
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I have a pair of Silencio electronic earmuffs and I think they work great. I've had them for about five years now. The microphone in them is just now starting to be not as clear as it shouls be but I think that's just from the foam rubbing off in my gear bag. They are a bit bulky and I don't like them for shotgun shooting but for rifle or handguns I love them. They were a little over a hundred bucks when I got them if I remember correctly.
Mike
 
i just ordered a set of the two-microphone muffs from cabelas in winnipeg ($49 + shipping), but if they work well, and i get a year or 2 out of them (mainly for pistol) i'll be happy
 
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