Electronic skeet thrower

You must be fun at parties. This is why clubs and forums get a bad name. Instead of being helpful you turn people off having discussions. Next time you think you should respond don’t. Your making yourself look like a fool.
Actually most clubs, including our own, are very friendly and welcoming to new shooters, but some people show up with a huge chip on their shoulder, and create their own issues. I currently belong to two clubs, and have belonged to two more, and the only people that had issues, were the people that brought their issues with them.
 
You must be fun at parties. This is why clubs and forums get a bad name. Instead of being helpful you turn people off having discussions. Next time you think you should respond don’t. Your making yourself look like a fool.
I have seen newbies turned off and leave the sport before giving it a chance because of holier than thou attitudes like that demonstrated by stubble jumper. His advice is always sound but his attitude in how he chooses to “share” that advice turns some away. We SHOULD try to encourage new people to any shooting sport but all too often they run into someone with a poor attitude early in their shooting experience and go find a friendlier pastime. Offering advice to a newb is wonderful……….unless you talk down to them in the process. Then it is a turn off and often chases new shooters away from the sport all together. I see it ALL the time at our local club. One guy in particular, decent shooter but his attitude keeps a few shooters from participating. People do these things for pleasure, fun, if someone is going to sap the fun out of it with a $hitty attitude, why participate?? Few things will bring in and retain more new shooters than a knowledgeable, experienced “mentor” to help them with learning the rules of firearm safety, rules of the particular game you are shooting in a kind helpful way and few things will drive new shooters away than a wannabe “mentor” with a holier than thou attitude. If someone can not share their experience and knowledge in a friendly helpful manner they should just STFU. To be fair, I believe many guilty of this don’t know they are doing it. They THINK they are being polite and helpful when in fact they are not and when pointed out, they pay attention the attitude they are expressing and try to improve. Others, when pointed out just get defensive and rude and ignore the message and go into defence mode rather than reflection mode. Those types are hopeless and no amount of knowledge snd experience is worth putting up with their attitude. Guys like that are a great reason to own your own thrower. With your own thrower you can keep the “guest” list to your liking.
 
I have seen newbies turned off and leave the sport before giving it a chance because of holier than thou attitudes like that demonstrated by stubble jumper. His advice is always sound but his attitude in how he chooses to “share” that advice turns some away. We SHOULD try to encourage new people to any shooting sport but all too often they run into someone with a poor attitude early in their shooting experience and go find a friendlier pastime. Offering advice to a newb is wonderful……….unless you talk down to them in the process. Then it is a turn off and often chases new shooters away from the sport all together. I see it ALL the time at our local club. One guy in particular, decent shooter but his attitude keeps a few shooters from participating. People do these things for pleasure, fun, if someone is going to sap the fun out of it with a $hitty attitude, why participate?? Few things will bring in and retain more new shooters than a knowledgeable, experienced “mentor” to help them with learning the rules of firearm safety, rules of the particular game you are shooting in a kind helpful way and few things will drive new shooters away than a wannabe “mentor” with a holier than thou attitude. If someone can not share their experience and knowledge in a friendly helpful manner they should just STFU. To be fair, I believe many guilty of this don’t know they are doing it. They THINK they are being polite and helpful when in fact they are not and when pointed out, they pay attention the attitude they are expressing and try to improve. Others, when pointed out just get defensive and rude and ignore the message and go into defence mode rather than reflection mode. Those types are hopeless and no amount of knowledge snd experience is worth putting up with their attitude. Guys like that are a great reason to own your own thrower. With your own thrower you can keep the “guest” list to your liking.
Thanks. This is exactly my point. It’s not about the message it’s about the delivery. I have been part of many hobbies and most I decide to spend to much to have all the gear to do it away from common clubs as then I don’t have to deal with the terrible attitude of one or two members. Unfortunately this also drives me away from all the great members at that club. I appreciate your statement and couldn’t agree more. This is exactly why I’m looking to purchase my own thrower or two to avoid people like stubble jumper. I don’t need the negative attitude I’m here to learn not be talked down to. Makes me feel good actually as I know they are so miserable with their own lives that they try to feel better by ruining others. I will keep you posted as I move through this. The MEC throwers are pretty appealing. Not sure if anyone has personal experience with them? Or could recommend another professional grade thrower?
 
Thanks. This is exactly my point. It’s not about the message it’s about the delivery. I have been part of many hobbies and most I decide to spend to much to have all the gear to do it away from common clubs as then I don’t have to deal with the terrible attitude of one or two members. Unfortunately this also drives me away from all the great members at that club. I appreciate your statement and couldn’t agree more. This is exactly why I’m looking to purchase my own thrower or two to avoid people like stubble jumper. I don’t need the negative attitude I’m here to learn not be talked down to. Makes me feel good actually as I know they are so miserable with their own lives that they try to feel better by ruining others. I will keep you posted as I move through this. The MEC throwers are pretty appealing. Not sure if anyone has personal experience with them? Or could recommend another professional grade thrower?
On the plus side, while his delivery could use some work if he wants to promote the sport, at least stubble jumper actually knows what he is talking about. If one can get by the attitude he does share valuable information but much gets overlooked due to the presentation. There are many with a similar attitude but don’t have the knowledge or experience to back it up (think Dunning Kruger affect).
 
Thats why i installed the wobble base, throws everywhere and even some places you would never expect
With my big superstar, if it lets a clay go when at the bottom of its wobble travel, the bird comes out about 2’ off the ground and flies out to maybe 50 yards before hitting the dirt, rising to maybe 5’ at the peak of its ark. if it lets one go at the top of the wobble travel it goes up at about a 60 degree rise or more. I set the foot control about 25 yards ahead and 10-15 yards to one side and set the wobble and shoot crossers. I get presentations from 3’ off the ground zipping by me about <10 yards away if I don’t shoot it before it passes me to a high looper flying away at maybe a 30 degree horizontal angle away from me at a 60 degree or so incline and every possible presentation in between. Shooting is from 10 yards to 60 yards with many presentation variables. Poor man’s one station sporting clay course 😁
 
I have seen newbies turned off and leave the sport before giving it a chance because of holier than thou attitudes like that demonstrated by stubble jumper. His advice is always sound but his attitude in how he chooses to “share” that advice turns some away. We SHOULD try to encourage new people to any shooting sport but all too often they run into someone with a poor attitude early in their shooting experience and go find a friendlier pastime. Offering advice to a newb is wonderful……….unless you talk down to them in the process. Then it is a turn off and often chases new shooters away from the sport all together. I see it ALL the time at our local club. One guy in particular, decent shooter but his attitude keeps a few shooters from participating. People do these things for pleasure, fun, if someone is going to sap the fun out of it with a $hitty attitude, why participate?? Few things will bring in and retain more new shooters than a knowledgeable, experienced “mentor” to help them with learning the rules of firearm safety, rules of the particular game you are shooting in a kind helpful way and few things will drive new shooters away than a wannabe “mentor” with a holier than thou attitude. If someone can not share their experience and knowledge in a friendly helpful manner they should just STFU. To be fair, I believe many guilty of this don’t know they are doing it. They THINK they are being polite and helpful when in fact they are not and when pointed out, they pay attention the attitude they are expressing and try to improve. Others, when pointed out just get defensive and rude and ignore the message and go into defence mode rather than reflection mode. Those types are hopeless and no amount of knowledge snd experience is worth putting up with their attitude. Guys like that are a great reason to own your own thrower. With your own thrower you can keep the “guest” list to your liking.
Then again, just like most people here,you have never been out to our club, to see how new shooters are treated. The one thing that we hear constantly from new shooters, is how welcome they are made to feel at our club. They are pleased that the members are so friendly and helpful, and that any intimidation that they felt before coming out, soon disappears, because of the informal atmosphere at our club. Of course there are exceptions, one person would not accept that he had to wear safety glasses, and he became very upset that we would not make an exception for him, and another person was not happy that after throwing him 40 targets or so, because he kept putting the safety on his shotgun, we stopped throwing him extra targets if he didn't shoot, but those are rare exceptions, the vast majority of new shooters are very pleased with our club. If people ask for advise, they receive it, if they don't ask, it isn't forced on them, unless they are ignoring range safety rules, and need a reminder. And yes, some people are easily offended if they have to be repeatedly reminded of a safety rule like swinging around a loaded gun, or loading before they are on the station, but even those situations are not common.
 
Most people I know call the electric machines “skeet” throwers and the clays “skeets”
I traded a shotgun to a coworker for a Raven electric thrower and it works ok but it likes to break a fair amount of “skeets”
I’ve adjusted the timing on it to be as close as possible so it doesn’t whack the clay against the rubber arm
The “skeets” I have may be old and brittle too
Regardless I use it in the back forty to shoot trap mainly and it makes for a fun afternoon/evening with a few friends
You don’t need an expensive thrower or a membership to have fun with “skeets”
 
You must be fun at parties. This is why clubs and forums get a bad name. Instead of being helpful you turn people off having discussions. Next time you think you should respond don’t. Your making yourself look like a fool.
I was staying out of this one until now but in all honesty you did ask about "electronic skeet throwers" not an electric clay target thrower and in the 48 years since I first set foot on a skeet field I've never heard the term "electronic skeet thrower". In fact the machines in all the disciplines are referred to as traps and the back 40 informal machines are advertised as clay target throwers.
 
Clubs can be fun just get on a trap field with a bunch of cronie timed shooters call for your bird and ride it out and don't break it till it 60yards out and two feet off the ground it drives them crazy. I had one guy tell me he didn't know we were pheasant hunting. Clubs are great but they all have a few :poop: heads but the majority are great people that know thier stuff and are willing to share I don't know stubble on a personal basis but I think he is most likely one of the good guys . Myself and my buds have a great time at the farm with our workhores wobble machine nothing wrong with structured club shoots if that is your thing.
 
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Most people I know call the electric machines “skeet” throwers and the clays “skeets”
I traded a shotgun to a coworker for a Raven electric thrower and it works ok but it likes to break a fair amount of “skeets”
I’ve adjusted the timing on it to be as close as possible so it doesn’t whack the clay against the rubber arm
The “skeets” I have may be old and brittle too
Regardless I use it in the back forty to shoot trap mainly and it makes for a fun afternoon/evening with a few friends
You don’t need an expensive thrower or a membership to have fun with “skeets”
In over 20 years at my club, as a well as at various clay shooting facilities in Canada and the US, I have never heard the term “skeet thrower” used.
 
It depends on locals. I've shot places everyone refers to vlays as skeets and throwers are called skeet machines. I've also shot at places that have told me pumps and sxs guns dont belong on a trap field. Even had 2 guys walk off a trap line because my shoes were to white.
Shooters can be our own worst enemy at times yet on the other hand shooting has led me to find some of my closest and best friends.
While skeet is better with a good group of guys and im extremely fortunate my local skeet club is all great ppl I do still enjoy going to a buddies farm for informal shooting

I cant recall the name right now but there's a new helice target available. Handheld and stationary throwers are available and the target is not a traditional clay. I think tenda had them. Maybe worth a look
 
I did the math for someone, and adding up the cost of a thrower, and targets, it was actually cheaper for him to purchase a membership, and shoot skeet with us. Our membership was $150, so the cost of a thrower and wobble feature was $750, or five years of memberships. As well, at $7 per round, he would be paying less than buying his own targets, at local prices. And of course there is no comparison between shooting actual skeet, vs standing behind his own thrower, and shooting targets that are all going away at similar angles, and only changing trajectory. While it may seem like a challenge initially, as your skills increase after a couple of thousand targets , the challenge disappears , and the novelty wears off.
your math is off, assuming someone would shoot 5 times a year, three rounds a day (im being conservative here) you will pay off the machine in 4 years, while not being restricted by club rules or line ups to use the lines
if one doesnt want to the membership and just casually attend a club to shoot, and Ill use my local club costs here, $20 pass a day, plus $10 for a round, costs me $50 a day, multiply that by number of shooters (last time between 5 of us we spent $250) in three trips in a year we would spend enough money to cover the cost of the machine and skeets,

there is nothing wrong with going to a club to shoot, its great when someone can explain the in and outs of the sport, but if you want to get good at something you better do some homework too
 
I was staying out of this one until now but in all honesty you did ask about "electronic skeet throwers" not an electric clay target thrower and in the 48 years since I first set foot on a skeet field I've never heard the term "electronic skeet thrower". In fact the machines in all the disciplines are referred to as traps and the back 40 informal machines are advertised as clay target throwers.
I grew up with a father who was in the industry, we always called them trap machines ( but those were the big Westerns) and the hand throwers just hand thowers .
I just got rid of my portable Western last fall that I originally got from Southernman who used it mostly at his friend's down south . However, if someone referred to the trap machine as a skeet thrower, I would know exactly what they were talking about and my only question would be " is yours electric or mechanical?"
Much like calling a certain cartridge a caliber , I guess.
Cat
 
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I grew up with a father who was in the industry, we always called them trap machines ( but those were the big Westerns) and the hand throwers just hand thowers .
I just got rid of my portable Western last fall that I originally got from Southernman who used it mostly at his friend's down south . However, if someone referred to the trap machine as a skeet thrower, I would know exactly what they were talking about and my only question would be " is yours electric or mechanical?"
Much like calling a certain cartridge a caliber , I guess.
Cat
The cat strikes once again ! :) Spot on apples and oranges all fruit.
 
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