Eley Ammunition

grauhanen said:
I don't think Eley Team is made any longer. Who is selling Eley? It's not possible to buy from Korth, is it?
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Korth just started sourcing it - they are going to carry just about the entire line.

But they DO NOT sell to the general public - they are purely a wholesaler and will only sell to you if you have a "storefront" - so even the basement/garage internet shops are out of luck.
 
grauhanen said:
I don't think Eley Team is made any longer. Who is selling Eley?
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Last time I bought some was from targetshootingproducts.com
If I remember well, the shipping was not bad.

They have some Eley Team at $99 a brick, which is not bad.

Personally I bought a brick of Eley Club last year and it was good and consistent, shoots well in my CZ452.

I'm tempted to try a brick of Eley Club... You never have enough .22lr ammunition :p
 
Eley Tenex, or Match EPS is at the very pinnacle of 22 ammo. In a similar circuit you will find top end Lapua and RWS.

I found a lot of Match EPS that 2 of my best match rifles really like. It is surreal to shoot such great performing ammo.
You can see shot after shot going through the same hole, only enlarging it slightly. At the end of 10 shots, you measure you group, and
it is .120" or less. At 50 M, That is where quality ammo becomes worthwhile. The difference is even more noticeable at 100M.

When I hear someone claiming one-hole groups with some "bulk" ammo, I just laugh, since they must be shooting those groups at 20 feet.

If you want quality ammo, the price will be elevated....it's simply the cost of doing business. Below is a couple of samples of 10 shot
groups at 50, using Eley EPS [Black Match] in quality rifles. Dave.


 
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You get what you pay for but regardless of price there are no guarantees your rifle will like the product.
Five members at our club shared two bricks of Lapua X-Act at about $250 per brick. None of the five BR50 rifles liked it. Looked good in testing but game day was a stinker. Two went back to CenterX during the match. My 40XBR did not like it but I burnt it off trying but it was not pretty.
Eley uses their EPS bullet in their premium lines and use 4 Anschutz rifles to test.
If all four like that lot it becomes Tenex at $222 per brick; 3 plus results and it is marketed at Match at about $160 and everything else was TEAM at about $100.
Find a supplier that will ship a box of ammo from each available lot, test it quickly, and order a case of the best performing.
TEAM may outperform TENEX. ELEY produces match ammo from as many as 6 production lines and every lot is assigned a number.
###X - 04237-1057 . . . 04 is the machine, 237 is a sequential lot number and the 1057 is the velocity average from their 4 rifles.
Following testing of a series of lots and using the above example, 237 might be TENEX, 238 MATCH and 239 TEAM and the velocities may be different.
The latest ELEY match ammo is EDGE and it is "black" because they use graphite in the production process. EDGE is around $130 per brick. I have tried one brick and it may be as good as any of the previous named varieties. It is not really the new TEAM but it is the least expensive of the current match ammo made by Eley.
If TEAM is being phased out, what will become of the lots not marketed at TENEX or MATCH . . . Remington Eley Match?
Orders from TSP are generally put together for other shooters and some are specific in their requests for velocity. My current stock is around 5000 rounds as it is advantageous to fill out a case.
What have I learned? Refer back to the first sentence!
I have two documents saved in respect to 22 rimfire ammo testing and will share to email requests.
 
I tried the Eley once, I got hold of a box, and it shot very well for me. But for most of my shooting I get buy with ammo that doesn't cost me as much. Its not as accurate, but I shoot more for enjoyment rather than pin point accuracy.
 
Eagleye said:
Eley Tenex, or Match EPS is at the very pinnacle of 22 ammo. In a similar circuit you will find top end Lapua, RWS and SK match.

I found a lot of Match EPS that 2 of my best match rifles really like. It is surreal to shoot such great performing ammo.
You can see shot after shot going through the same hole, only enlarging it slightly. At the end of 10 shots, you measure you group, and
it is .120" or less. At 50 M, That is where quality ammo becomes worthwhile. The difference is even more noticeable at 100M.

When I hear someone claiming one-hole groups with some "bulk" ammo, I just laugh, since they must be shooting those groups at 20 feet.

If you want quality ammo, the price will be elevated....it's simply the cost of doing business. Below is a couple of samples of 10 shot
groups at 50, using Eley EPS [Black Match] in quality rifles. Dave.


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Nice shooting Dave...
 
Thank you, sfdj. :) It is worth noting that those groups were shot from two different rifles. I have since acquired a M37 Remington, and it actually shoots better with a lot
of RWS R50 I have here, although it does shoot this Eley lot fairly well, too.

I have just about a case left of the Black Match EPS, plus about ¾ of a case of RWS Match, so am set for a while. I have small quantities of 3 lots of Tenex here, but none
of them perform like this lot of EPS Black. Some Lapua Midas M works well, but I do not have much of it. Center-X is the ammo my 541S loves.

22 rimfires are fickle things. Dave.
 
Eagleye said:
Thank you, sfdj. :) It is worth noting that those groups were shot from two different rifles. I have since acquired a M37 Remington, and it actually shoots better with a lot
of RWS R50 I have here, although it does shoot this Eley lot fairly well, too.

I have just about a case left of the Black Match EPS, plus about ¾ of a case of RWS Match, so am set for a while. I have small quantities of 3 lots of Tenex here, but none
of them perform like this lot of EPS Black. Some Lapua Midas M works well, but I do not have much of it. Center-X is the ammo my 541S loves.

22 rimfires are fickle things. Dave.
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Were they CZ's ?
 
Eley, Lapua, RWS and other "Match" ammunition is usually bought/shot by people who are in prep for or shooting in competition, where a poorly loaded cartridge could mean the difference between gold medal and also-ran... That said, the only time I've ever had a round not make it to the target I was shooting Eley Tenex, and the shot, although released properly, landed on the ground before it got to the target... (50 m free pistol competition).
These days I shoot Green Tag out of the GSP or the Hammerli because it's more accurate than I can shoot. It's more accurate than most people can shoot offhand. When scores are hovering in the 550/600 range, it may make a difference to have a little less vertical spread in the ammo, and it may make a difference to go to the match-grade stuff. Heck, CCI Standard Velocity shoots better than I do these days...
 
silverfoxdj said:
Were they CZ's ?
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No, they were not. One is a Suhl 150 Standard, the other a 40X Remington. I have a 452 American in 22LR, but it is not
competitive with these bad boys. If it averages .450" at 50, I'm quite satisfied with it.

I took the 40X to an IR 50/50 match at our club a year ago, and it won the marbles, plus broke the standing club record.
This is a factory 40x, without a tuner, but with a Jewell trigger at 4 oz. The Suhl outshoots it by a small margin, but wears a tuner.

Dave.
 
Eagleye said:
Eley Tenex, or Match EPS is at the very pinnacle of 22 ammo. In a similar circuit you will find top end Lapua, RWS and SK match.
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To be clear, SK ammo is not near the pinnacle of match .22LR ammo, unless there is a new SK line of ammo very different from Rifle Match, Biathlon Sport, Standard Plus, or Magazine (or even Pistol Match or Pistol Match Special).
 
Eagle eye it sounds like you have quite the investment in nice target 22lr.How did you aquire such a nice collection?That,s a lot of pricey ammo as well.I thought I had enough invested in 4 bricks of sk std plus,2 rifle match ,2 bricks of center x,1 of midas +
Nice shooting
 
savagecanuck said:
Eagle eye it sounds like you have quite the investment in nice target 22lr.How did you aquire such a nice collection?That,s a lot of pricey ammo as well.I thought I had enough invested in 4 bricks of sk std plus,2 rifle match ,2 bricks of center x,1 of midas +
Nice shooting
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Thank You for the kind words. I have kept my eyes open over the years, and some fellow shooters have also helped me by offering
me some choice target rimfires because they knew I was really into them.

For example, My Suhl is a gem. It is a Jim Williams prepped unit [originally for his son, I believe] It has been tweaked a bit
and is bedded in a benchrest stock.

The Suhl trigger has no competition out in the shooting world, IMHO. 2 oz, and very consistent. It has a Harrels tuner and it performs
day in and day out, as long as the shooter does his part, lol. I was contacted by Jefferson on here, asking me if I was interested in it.
I also got my 40X from him.

The M37 came from a shooter on here as well, 250-25X, who knew I had been looking.
Then, of course, optics have to be purchased and mounted...oh yes, it does add up.

It's only money, anyway. My wife even agrees, it's better than spending it at the bar every evening.
A case of top quality ammo will bite a big hole out of 2 grand nowadays, but again....are we serious, or not?

I usually deal with Target shooting products for ammo. But Peter Dobson at Hirsh Precision has Lapua.

I have a 4th HB 22 that I have recently acquired, and it remains to see how it will pan out. It is a 144LSB Mossberg.
While not likely in the same class as the others, it has shown promise with the initial testing.
But it has a broken extractor now, so waiting for a new one from Numrich.

Maybe I'm a bit nutty, but are we not all that way a little? :) Regards, Dave.
 
My sources say that at the top level, you can't be competitive in .22 rifle unless you have access to
different lots of the same .22LR match ammunition and can select which lots shoot well for your specific rifle(s).

Lapua (for example) has a competitor testing centre in the US for just that purpose.

Lot selection in .22LR is the equivalent of what is done with handloading in centrefire rifles.
 
rodregier said:
My sources say that at the top level, you can't be competitive in .22 rifle unless you have access to
different lots of the same .22LR match ammunition and can select which lots shoot well for your specific rifle(s).

Lapua (for example) has a competitor testing centre in the US for just that purpose.

Lot selection in .22LR is the equivalent of what is done with handloading in centrefire rifles.
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You are correct in this observation. To that end, I get Peter at Target shooting products to send a brick each of several lots to try before I
purchase a case [or more] of the number that shoots best. He will do this, and it really is true that certain lot numbers will shoot
better than others in any given rifle.

You get some real surprises, at times. Many years ago, I ordered a case of High velocity 22LR ammo for "plinking" purposes. It was the
Original PMC, with the unplated bullet. My chronograph said 1285 average, and the stuff was amazingly consistent, for velocity.
I found that this ammo really shot well in my 541T Sporter....I mean, way above what one would expect for this HV ammo.

Just for S&G, I took the rifle and that ammo to a 100 M bench shoot at our local club. I did not expect anything super, just was curious as to
how it would fare against the heavy guns with match ammo. Long story short, I won the gold medal at that match. My 10 shot groups at 100M
averaged right at .625" This flies in the face of everything we know about using HV ammo in a target situation, but it is a case of the rifle
really liking that ammo, and the lot being exceptionally consistent. Never found any HV ammo again that shot that well, even Lapua HV stuff
[SpeedAce] will not match it. go figure!

Regards, Dave.
 
I've shot Eley for years from my browning medalist, most consistent , tightly grouped ammo I've ever shot. My vintage Enfield no.8 trainer and LongBranch no.7 trainer love it. I use to buy multiple bricks at a time to keep within the same lot numbers......it was relatively inexpensive before, compared to others......now, not so much!
 
Like Dave said, the HV ammo can be a surprise....I have a S&W 617 which groups the best with HV Winchester 36g HP ! I bought 6 or 7 different weight, velocity, grains and manufacturer... The Winchester was the best and in the middle of the pack with regards to price.
 
ksj1958 said:
Like Dave said, the HV ammo can be a surprise....I have a S&W 617 which groups the best with HV Winchester 36g HP ! I bought 6 or 7 different weight, velocity, grains and manufacturer... The Winchester was the best and in the middle of the pack with regards to price.
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What size groups and what distance with the revolver?
 
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