Elk hunting setup?

1899 said:
lol...I thought it and you wrote it. By the way, does anyone use 200gr bullets in the .338 WM?
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I can't imagine using 200 gr. bullets for elk in either the .338 or the .325 (which, I agree, is no match for a .338 as an elk rifle). The whole point of larger caliber magnums is to shoot heavier bullets than is possible with the .300 magnums.
 
For the past three seasons each of my elk (all three) were killed with my .308 win. Each required only a single round. 30-06 should be fine too.

Good luck!

Brobee
 
1899 said:
lol...I thought it and you wrote it. By the way, does anyone use 200gr bullets in the .338 WM?
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Sure, Yankees shooting raghorns and 150lb whitetails looking to "make'em DRT!"

Funny thing is most 200gr .338 bullets have a higher BC and move out of the barrel 100fps faster. But I don't really like .338's ;)

Right now I wish I was a Yank shooting raghorns.....:kickInTheNuts:
 
The .323 200 grain has a higher BC than the .338 equivalent..., but I guess you guys don't pay any attention to things like that, to each his own.... And who seems to think you need more than a 200 grain for elk? I have dropped every elk I have ever shot with a 140, some at extreme distances, all one shot, clean kills.

Now the .338 300 grain, that is a whole different story, insane BC, but I thought we were talking about Elk, not Cape Buffalo at 2 miles...... and a rifle with glass combo under $2,000.00.

No need to attack the new guy.... It's okay that I have an opinion, based upon available data and persoanl experience. Of those that slammed my post, how many of you own and have fired BOTH calibers? I do, and I have. My apologies for insulting the armchair uberhunter/supersniper/coffeeshopwannabe's.
 
mooseman1 said:
I wanna go elk hunting and I can't make up my mind what to get ,I want to stay with common rounds. So no wildcat stuff as I'm on $1500-$2000 budget. Let me know what you think
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First off, you could just use a 3006, I did for a lot of years. Killed critters good. And if that worked I'm pretty sure it's smaller and weaker cousins like the 308, 280, 270, etc will too. Some of your selection criteria should depend on what you are comfortable shooting. As someone mentioned if you are not very comfortable with 3006 recoil you should probably not consider a 338wm.

I bought a 338wm a few years ago. No regrets, accurate, kills well, less bloodshot than the fast 7's and fast 30's (from what I have seen), and a great long range bomber. To me the ballistic difference between a 3006 and a fast 30 when compared to the recoil for the effort it is not worth it, might as well go to the 338wm.

I would suggest a either a Winchester Model 70 Extreme Weather or a stainless synthetic Ruger Hawkeye with a Zeiss 3-9x40 conquest. That would be a good setup for under 2K.
 
Cleftwynd said:
The .323 200 grain has a higher BC than the .338 equivalent..., but I guess you guys don't pay any attention to things like that, to each his own.... And who seems to think you need more than a 200 grain for elk? I have dropped every elk I have ever shot with a 140, some at extreme distances, all one shot, clean kills.

Now the .338 300 grain, that is a whole different story, insane BC, but I thought we were talking about Elk, not Cape Buffalo at 2 miles...... and a rifle with glass combo under $2,000.00.

No need to attack the new guy.... It's okay that I have an opinion, based upon available data and persoanl experience. Of those that slammed my post, how many of you own and have fired BOTH calibers? I do, and I have. My apologies for insulting the armchair uberhunter/supersniper/coffeeshopwannabe's.
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CW,

I would agree with some of the previous posters in that I don't know anyone who shoots anything other than 225's or 250's in their 338wm. The BC of the lighter bullets don't make sense. I personally shoot 225's, 275's, but mostly 250's. I have found the heavier bullets deviate less in wind and seem to hit stuff harder at distance.

While I have not shot the 300 boattails in mine I think they might be better suited to the bigger cases like the Rum and the Lapua.

I did try 180's and 200's - once.

FWIW the 325 should do just fine too, I just thought there was not near as much bullet seletion in the 8mm's.
 
Cleftwynd said:
The .323 200 grain has a higher BC than the .338 equivalent..., but I guess you guys don't pay any attention to things like that, to each his own.... And who seems to think you need more than a 200 grain for elk? I have dropped every elk I have ever shot with a 140, some at extreme distances, all one shot, clean kills.

Now the .338 300 grain, that is a whole different story, insane BC, but I thought we were talking about Elk, not Cape Buffalo at 2 miles...... and a rifle with glass combo under $2,000.00.

No need to attack the new guy.... It's okay that I have an opinion, based upon available data and persoanl experience. Of those that slammed my post, how many of you own and have fired BOTH calibers? I do, and I have. My apologies for insulting the armchair uberhunter/supersniper/coffeeshopwannabe's.
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Lol...you can't always believe what you read in the reloading manuals and such. If you do you will bring on the wrath of the uberhunter/supersniper/coffeeshopwannabe's

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Weatherby & Leupold

scott_r said:
I buy a Weatherby Vanguard 2 in 300 mag/ 300 wsm and a Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x44. Way more value in the Conquest line then the overpriced Leupold VX stuff.
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My elk rifle is a Weatherby Vanguard in 300 win. with a Leupold VX-2 3-9x. It's a great combo that I will take out this Nov/Dec with an elk LEH tag.

Lots of good options, especially if you reload. You can squeeze great accuracy out of a decent rifle.

Check out Redfield for more value - their quality Revolution or intruiging Revenge w/ its ranging reticle. Still made by Leupold.
 
Don't count out the 35 Whelen with 225gr Partitions @ 2700fps or a 250 @ 2550fps. Both loads will drop em. I also use my Tikka T3 30/06 and 180 Partitions and a 300 WBY and 200gr Partitions @ 3000fps. In the thick stuff I use my BLR 358 Win and 225gr Partitions @ 2470fps. All good rounds. All with Leupold glass. 1500 to 2000 for any of these guns and glass. A Ruger SS in 35 Whelen near ideal less recoil than a 338.
 
Yeah a 7mRM sounds like a good choice, or a 30-06 will do the job aswell.
Ruger hawkeye or Rem700 but also heard good things about Marlin x range and zastava pops up often..



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Elk rifle

Charlie38 said:
Don't count out the 35 Whelen with 225gr Partitions @ 2700fps or a 250 @ 2550fps. Both loads will drop em. I also use my Tikka T3 30/06 and 180 Partitions and a 300 WBY and 200gr Partitions @ 3000fps. In the thick stuff I use my BLR 358 Win and 225gr Partitions @ 2470fps. All good rounds. All with Leupold glass. 1500 to 2000 for any of these guns and glass. A Ruger SS in 35 Whelen near ideal less recoil than a 338.
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"Yes" to the .35Whelen. I took a nice 6X6 elk September 2011 with 225 TSX handload at 186 yards. Bull went down within 10 yards. Less recoil than .338 also.
Geoff
 
1899 said:
This is true if you are talking about the VX-2 and VX-3, but the VX-6 is on a different level. If he has a $2000 budget he should buy the best glass possible within his limits. IMO, while the Conquest is very good bang for the $, it certainly is not the best within his price range.

But you are right on the Vanguard 2 - they look fantastic and can be had for $500.

Rifle - $500
S&B Klassic - $1450

Mounts and tax will bring you over the $2000, but not by much. With a VX-6 you will come in quite a bit under budget.
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Yeah my comment was more for the VX III line and under. Never looked through a VX 6. Does it have constant eye relief or does it change? I never have liked that about Leupold and don't know why they don't do something about it.
 
The make, model, etc are secondary - Primary consideration is your shooting ability. Your choice of 308/30-06/300 in a bolt action, scope equipped rifle that you are comfortable with. 180 gr bullets, 150 yd zero. If you reload take a serious look at 180 gr nosler partition / IMR4350 in the 300 winmag.

Don't buy a new rifle and take it hunting. Buy a new rifle 6 months before you plan to take it hunting and put at least a couple hundred rounds through it getting accustomed to it and practising, and THEN it's ready to take hunting.
 
A Tikka T3 .308winch with the best scope you want to spend your money on. Accubond 150-200 grains, TTSX 150-168 grains or Norma Oryx 165 -200 grains bullets will do the job.
Me and my daughter uses this blend of bullets for moose and bear with good results. They should be ok for elk also.
 
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