Elk slaughter in Manitoba
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At least these hunts were sanctioned and controlled....just think about how many poachers shoot elk for only the antlers to sell , I bet these number many more than these hunts. These elk were going as food, not left in the bush to rot. Sometimes also the herds have to be culled, so the area can support the numbers.
magnummike
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Sanctioned and controlled hunts...so i guess it's ok if I get together with a bunch of my buddies and have a controlled hunt to fill our freezers then?
yes. you didn't answer my question.
There is a lot more to the Chief's speech but I doubt he is not a "Idle No More" supporter but more like a "GOYA$$" promoter.
Chief Laurence Louie Osoyoos, B.C. Makes sense to me
FORT McMURRAY, Alberta
Speaking to a large aboriginal conference and some of the attendees, including a few who hold high office, have straggled in.
'I can't stand people who are late, he says into the microphone. Indian Time doesn't cut it. '
Some giggle, but no one is quite sure how far he is going to go. Just sit back and listen:
'My first rule for success is Show up on time.'
'My No. 2 rule for success is follow Rule No. 1.'
'If your life sucks, it's because you suck.'
'Quit your sniffling.'
'Join the real world. Go to school, or get a job.'
'Get off of welfare. Get off your butt.'
Chief Laurence Louie Osoyoos, B.C. Makes sense to me
FORT McMURRAY, Alberta
Speaking to a large aboriginal conference and some of the attendees, including a few who hold high office, have straggled in.
'I can't stand people who are late, he says into the microphone. Indian Time doesn't cut it. '
Some giggle, but no one is quite sure how far he is going to go. Just sit back and listen:
'My first rule for success is Show up on time.'
'My No. 2 rule for success is follow Rule No. 1.'
'If your life sucks, it's because you suck.'
'Quit your sniffling.'
'Join the real world. Go to school, or get a job.'
'Get off of welfare. Get off your butt.'
Cry with their hand held out to the gov`t like always. Look what happened with the housing up north ONT. I figure: They want their land, fence the land and they can stay within their boundaries. If they deplete everything there...Oh Well.
WOOSH.
The sound of a joke flying right over your head.
Woops, sorry, maybe he shoulda followed it with a "Bazinga" LOL
So, if these people met your definition of legal, it would be alright. But, they only me the provincial definition of legal, so not good.
bearkilr
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Complete failure of a post. A view things;
1. Sanctioned and controlled? Sanctioned and controlled by whom? Please explain.
2. The market for large elk antlers is nonexistent, unless you think chandelier makers pay $1000's for a head, in which case you'd be wrong as they collect sheds for lamps.
3. How do you know what they're planning to do with the elk meat? The fact is most elk and moose meat is sold illegally. Chances of a dozen carcasses being cut up and processed by locals to be distributed among the "needy" on the reserve is slim to none.
4. They don't need to be culled. There's no risk of overpopulation. This area has already been closed to moose hunting due to the low population. The governement has largely blamed the wolves. Locals know the real reason.
You're from Russell, rural Manitoba, on a hunting/shooting forum. You know what's going on here. Don't try to patronize us.
One other thing that happens infrequently is ignorant famers calling natives to shoot elk that are eating the bales they were too f'n lazy to get off the fields. They should be dealt with as poachers as well.
serenitynow
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probably the same guys, that were selling deer they shot last year from thier trucks in the gimli area
a few days later those same deer were left to rot in the ditch!!!!
a few days later those same deer were left to rot in the ditch!!!!
Legal as it may be, the legal definition doesn't cover how morally and ethically wrong it is.
Your pretty thick aren't you?It's not about what I think is legal or not, it's about sustainability....
As I said ''If they were legally tagged with a tag obtained through a draw system, as the Algonquins have here it would be just fine'' This would put an end to the free for all, and make it a sustainable system as it did here....
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I responded to this because I don't see how or what would be sorted out. I asked if they were tagged it would be ok? You responded that it would be more legal? A tag system for aboriginals would do what? They all have the right to hunt.
So, give all the aboriginal's tags and they go out and shoot, no different.
You are directing your anger at the natives, maybe it should be directed at the govt. Or, atleast the gov't from 125 years ago.
I don't agree with Flett's reasoning for the kill. (idle no more) But if, and thats a big if, its their annual hunt for sustinance.......
I'm all for traditional hunting rights, so leave the 4x4, the quad, the rifle, the steel knives and the booze at home. Take your hand made bow, you stone tipped arrows, your stone knives and your dog and hunt as you ancestors did. If you don't want to do it that way then follow the same laws I have to.
Quite a few years ago, they had a pow-wow in Cyprus Hills park in southern Sask. They killed more elk than the conservation department thought lived in the park. Took only hind end and other choice cuts and left the rest to rot. The herd has since rebounded, but the ignorance of some of these people astounds me.
They come over from Manitoba to the Hudson Bay area, shoot moose and take only the nose and the premature calf.
"keepers of the land" ya right.
They come over from Manitoba to the Hudson Bay area, shoot moose and take only the nose and the premature calf.
"keepers of the land" ya right.
