Enfield ID

[Forty4Forty]

Trying to ID this Enfield (pics bad with camera phone).

2 grove barrel.

Looks like a savage, but no or US property. (This is my assumtion, a Savage)

Long Branch, no name, Serial Number may be??

 

[louthepou]

What's stamped on the left side of the butt socket?

 

[greyman441]

Look like just a regular No4Mrk1 full configuration. Looks like a sporter that was brought back. If im not mistaken thats a longbranch rear handgaurd, bands are on backwards. If you pull the wood off you will probably find some marks by the chamber. 2 groove I believe is a rebarrel.

I have one identical to this, almost the smae serial number too. Mine is 1942 marked AY in at start of serial number and it has a 2 groove barrel as well.

 

[louthepou]

What's stamped on the left side of the butt socket?

Oops never mind I forgot to scroll sideways to see the picture of the above mentioned butt socket

If memory serves well, the "M" would be for the Maltby factory?

 

[Lee Enfield]

Oops never mind I forgot to scroll sideways to see the picture of the above mentioned butt socket

If memory serves well, the "M" would be for the Maltby factory?

Yes, it is a Maltby

 

[Cdn303]

I'll third Maltby. there is the 'M' but there is also the first digit of the serial. As far as British manufacture, 1 denotes Maltby, 2 denotes Fazakerley, 3 denotes BSA. If it were a Longbranch there would be an 'L' in between numbers and a Savage would have a 'C' in between numbers.

The finger grooves on the rear handhuard are just a variation in production. There were made like that to help grip the rifle, but they were not essential. Some manufactures did it some didn't. I have 1 with them and 1 without. I prefer them b/c IMHO they feel better under the hand.

The 2 groove bore was a wartime production concession. It will shoot just as good as a 5 groove barrel. The 'L' type rear sight was also a wartime production concession. I am going to guess that there is also a zamik or makak (zinc alloy)butt plate. I have never figured out which is the correct term. I've seen it referenced both ways in books. This was also a wartime concession to save brass and steel, which is the normal material, for the more important war industires.


On another note, it fits in somewhere between my two Maltby's as production goes. I have an AF1###X and a BB1###X.

 

[Forty4Forty]

Thanks, will look into Maltby. I don't have it, it was one that caught my attention at a .303 as could not place it, old guy bought it years ago, for something like $20.00.

 

[Cdn303]

If you are looking for some online reference here are two places that I frequent.
http://www.enfieldrifles.ca/
http://www.enfieldresource.com/

However, I use my Skennerton 'bible' and S.A.I.S 4 times more often then the online stuff.