Enfield Model 1917 (P-17) experts needed

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I own a Model 1917 Remington rifle in full Military config. I am posting a picture of the top of the breech. Please note the semi circle at the rear. It appears milled,not rough etc and I for the life of me can not find its purpose.

Has anyone ever seen this before? This rifle is very accurate even for my Old eyes and wondering if it was there to accommdate something else.

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I don't think either the groove in the top of the handguard or the one in the top of the action over the bolt lug recess area are original. Note the latter cuts through the ID stamp. Is there any evidence a scope was ever mounted? That could be the explanation for the handguard groove. No clue as to the other.
 
Ya that is what I was thinking,but was a scope ever being mounted I do not have a clue. I bought it a few years ago a fellow that owns his own Police supply company in Markham Ontario and he advised he got it in a shipment of several from Century arms I believe. I am not a good shot with open sights anymore but I can still put them in the black at 200 yds with this one,very accurate. It is definately not a Bubba job.
 
The cutout in the receiver ring is like what they do when rechambering for a long cartridge such as a 300 H&H to allow a loaded cartridge to be ejected.

If this rifle is still in the original 30/06 then maybe the owner wanted to use a very long bullet.

Hugh
 
bushwhacker said:
I don't think either the groove in the top of the handguard or the one in the top of the action over the bolt lug recess area are original. Note the latter cuts through the ID stamp. Is there any evidence a scope was ever mounted? That could be the explanation for the handguard groove. No clue as to the other.
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The groove in the top of the handguard is indeed original on all Pattern 1914s and Model 1917s.

The machined notch in the reciever is for longer OAL cartridges to be loaded via stripper clip. My Norwegian Kar.98k had the same thing done. The Model 1917 is still used by the Danish rangers in Greenland.
 
Hook said:
The groove in the top of the handguard is indeed original on all Pattern 1914s and Model 1917s.

The machined notch in the reciever is for longer OAL cartridges to be loaded via stripper clip. My Norwegian Kar.98k had the same thing done. The Model 1917 is still used by the Danish rangers in Greenland.
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Well you learn something everyday, that is really interesting info and thanks.
 
A regular one in seems to go in the 400-1000$ range depending on condition. If it was me selling I would try 700$ and go down from there (likely end up at 500-600$). The biggest issue is that cut out, as I know if I was buying one I would want it original to the US in WWI and as such would pass on this example for that alone. Hope this helps.
 
FWIW, the FN model of 1950 in .30/'06 had that notch as part of the manufacturing process which allowed allowed the use of the longer ammo with chargers.
 
That receiver notch is definitely a Danish modification. it always strikes me as a solution in search of a problem as the M1917 handles clip loading very well as it is. Remember that the M1917 came into service in WW1 when standard US ball ammo used the longer M1 bullet.
 
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