Enfield No.4 Cocking Piece Question

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Is there such a thing as a a factory made 'short' No.4 cocking piece?

This one (in the middle) came off a matching serial number 1942 Fazakerly No.4 Mk.1.

At first I thought it was Bubba at work but then noticed a few things:

The bluing at the back where it would have been ground off is the same as the rest and looks original.

The threaded hole and hole for the set screw are well made and don't look re-made by Bubba. There is the same bluing on the inside of the set screw recess as on the rest.

The milled ribs for grip extend farther forward that those on a regular cocking piece.

The back of the shortened firing pin looks well done, not like Bubba cut it off with a hack saw.

Is this possible a legit, original part that I shouldn't replace?


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i have one exactly the same in my collection of stuff aswell, and yours is the only other one i have seen like this. im interested to know the story aswell.
 
Only reason I can see is if that was working with a special precision shooting trigger that required a firing pin to travel less distance? I had a No4Mk1 like that a while ago I think.
 
Thanks for the responses guys. I was starting to think I had asked a dumb question.

IF this is original, my theory would be that it was saving metal for the war effort given the 1942 date.

I bought a replacement part thinking this was obviously wrong but when I had a good look at it, I wasn't so sure.
 
Look at the location of the safety-catch notches & the fact it still has all three groves for gripping (the other two visible under the firing pin) the cocking piece has been repaired by shortening at the front & re-machined, plus had a chunk removed at the front of the actual gripping part.
 
Yes, it is a cocking piece that has been altered by removing material from the front of the rear section. Probably looks rather odd when in a rifle. Why? Where? When? Who knows? Apart from lightening the assembly, can't see any reason to do it. Look at the area that has been modified. Was it done with machine or hand tools?
 
Metal off the front

tiriaq said:
Yes, it is a cocking piece that has been altered by removing material from the front of the rear section. Probably looks rather odd when in a rifle. Why? Where? When? Who knows? Apart from lightening the assembly, can't see any reason to do it. Look at the area that has been modified. Was it done with machine or hand tools?
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I think you're right. The original lug looks to have been ground off and a new one set in place. The metal work is nicely machined and the finish at the front (where metal would have been removed) is as good as the rest. I'm starting to think this wasn't Bubba.

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The cocking piece is an after market modification done by target shooters to improve performance. I've seen 2 styles. The first with the sear face cut back and the sear modified to improve firing pin fall time (as claimed by the target shooter). The second type is the modification shown here. This cocking piece clearly has been shortened and the guide relocated. In addition the spring would be changed and perhaps the sear reprofiled. There were a lot of modications done to Enfields to improve performance....don't know how well they worked.

I've also seen the cocking piece modified for the installation of the Canjar and Timney triggers....a whole new subject.


Well done modication.....chap had some machining ability to make it look this good.

Ron
 
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