Enfield No5 Bayonet

I want to know as well!! Waiting for my new ROF No.5 in the mail now and would like to complete it without spending almost as much as the rifle for the bayonet!

Hopefully someone has taken the leap and can tell us.
 
JRW (QOR) said:
I've been trying to get one, bid for one on e-bay a while back, went for $250. However, I have seen this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/British-Enfield-No-5-Jungle-Carbine-Bayonet-Scabbard-/290574896099?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a79d0be3

Any comments? Would not bother me to get a new remake.
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i picked up one of these repros on the EE a couple of years ago, with the seller indicating it was a "new" old bayonet. you can tell the diff very easily between the new/original blades while handling the bayonet. the one i picked up was new, all blacked blade/handle with unmarked wood, and a repro metal sheath. however, for $100, you can mount this on your #5 until you pick up an original. go for it.

trade ex had a bunch of #5 bayonets that they were selling for aboutg $75 or so a couple of years ago during the summer. unfortunately, by the time i phoned to order several, they were all sold out.
 
- The Indian repros sold by IMA/Atlanta Cutlery are made of soft steel and need file work to fit most rifles.

- Trade ex had a bunch of #5 bayonets that they were selling for about $75

Those were Malayan Police Enfield No. 5 bayonet, original British issue bayonets with their blades were ground down to a very thin profile to lighten them.

For more Info, contact me personnally.
 
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BAYONETS: For the No.5. Mk1 Lee-Enfield Rifle. (a.k.a. Jungle Carbine)

I found this info somewhere on the Internet....for whatever it is worth.

Wartime production was carried out by four manufacturers: Wilkinson Sword Co, London - 188,354; Viners Ltd., Sheffield – 42,000; Radcliffe – 75,000; and Elkington & Co. Ltd., Birmingham – 10,768.

An unknown quantity was produced post-war at the Royal Ordinance Factory, Poole.

Wilkinson marked their No. 5 bayonets with the initials “W.S.C.” and/or their dispersal code “S294”.

Viners marked theirs with “VNS” or their dispersal code “N79”.

Radcliffe (about which very little is known) marked theirs with their dispersal code, “N187”.

Elkington marked theirs with their dispersal code, “M78”.

Post-war ROF, Poole bayonets are marked with a “P” inside a small circle.

David
 
drm3m said:
BAYONETS: For the No.5. Mk1 Lee-Enfield Rifle. (a.k.a. Jungle Carbine)

I found this info somewhere on the Internet....for whatever it is worth.

Wartime production was carried out by four manufacturers: Wilkinson Sword Co, London - 188,354; Viners Ltd., Sheffield – 42,000; Radcliffe – 75,000; and Elkington & Co. Ltd., Birmingham – 10,768.

An unknown quantity was produced post-war at the Royal Ordinance Factory, Poole.

Wilkinson marked their No. 5 bayonets with the initials “W.S.C.” and/or their dispersal code “S294”.

Viners marked theirs with “VNS” or their dispersal code “N79”.

Radcliffe (about which very little is known) marked theirs with their dispersal code, “N187”.

Elkington marked theirs with their dispersal code, “M78”.

Post-war ROF, Poole bayonets are marked with a “P” inside a small circle.

David
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Thanks for the info. a letter P inside a circle followed by 1946 is what's marked on the blade of mine down close to the hilt.

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Johnn,

The marking on your bayonet might look something like the photo shown below.

I started researching the bayonet manufacturers and their markings some years ago, and realized that I had a 1946 post war marked bayonet.

With the values of the No.5 Mk1 LE rifles being at the level they seem to be,
I decided I would settle for the bayonet that I have.

The value of the bayonet vs. the value of the gun just did not make sense to me.

I own a few valuable bayonets, mostly U.S. Civil War vintage, but the value of the gun and the value of the bayonet are substantially different proportionately.

At least the info above "might perhaps" provide a guide for anyone looking for a WWII vintage bayonet.....in order to know what you are looking at.

David

One of the bayonet markings BB4580.

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Serial number on the rifle BB9724.
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drm3m said:
Johnn,

The marking on your bayonet might look something like the photo shown below.

I started researching the bayonet manufacturers and their markings some years ago, and realized that I had a 1946 post war marked bayonet.

With the values of the No.5 Mk1 LE rifles being at the level they seem to be,
I decided I would settle for the bayonet that I have.

The value of the bayonet vs. the value of the gun just did not make sense to me.

I own a few valuable bayonets, mostly U.S. Civil War vintage, but the value of the gun and the value of the bayonet are substantially different proportionately.

At least the info above "might perhaps" provide a guide for anyone looking for a WWII vintage bayonet.....in order to know what you are looking at.

David

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Right you are. Same thing:). Thanks for the info, much appreciated:).
 
Bayonets for the No.5 LE.

An unknown quantity were produced post-war at the Royal Ordinance Factory, Poole.
Post-war ROF, Poole bayonets are marked with a “P” inside a small circle.

The bayonet shown below is dated 1946 and shows markings BB4580 with a “P” in a circle.

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This BSA manufactured No.5 rifle is dated 1945 and shows
serial number BB9724. (BSA-Shirley, total production 81,329.)
I believe that this is an example from the first production run of BSAs No.5 Mk1 rifles.

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Any explanations….this is not my field of expertise.
I doubt that bayonets were serial numbered to a specific rifle....why these markings on the bayonet?

David

P.S.
Today I would have preferred a wartime manufactured bayonet to go with this 1945 dated No.5 LE.
Back when I purchased this bayonet...I did not know the difference.
The bayo was purchased years after the rifle was acquired.
Live and learn I guess.
The bayonet was a Christmas present to my father at one point, as the No.5 LE was his gun.
 
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drm3m said:
Were bayonets serial numbered to a specific rifle....why these markings?
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From what I have read from various sources the bayonets were not numbered to a rifle at the rifle factory or bayonet factory.

However, apparantly sometimes when a rifle went to the armorer for some reason the bayonet that went with it was stamped to match the rifle: specifically to ensure the same bayonet went back with that rifle. This, however, I read from an Internet article some time ago and the author stated it was unsupported. :yingyang:
 
Anyone have a source for original scabbards or repo's?

I'm off to the garage now to look up the marking on the Bayonet I bought way back.

** Edit ** Bayonet only has makings on the blade. WSC with a little 4 or star on the upper right. Reverse side has a X with something that looks like an arrow pointing up. Anyone?
 
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If people have photos of different manufacturers bayonets
for the No.5 LE showing markings, it might be helpful for all of us
as it appears that this subject is somewhat unclear for many.

David


Lumpy,

Wilkinson marked their No. 5 bayonets with the initials “W.S.C.” and/or their
dispersal code “S294”.

(Info from the Internet?)

Wartime production was carried out by four manufacturers:

Wilkinson Sword Co, London - 188,354;
Viners Ltd., Sheffield – 42,000;
Radcliffe – 75,000;
Elkington & Co. Ltd., Birmingham – 10,768.
 
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