Enfield SHT LE Rimfire

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I posted this in the rimfire section but am not getting a lot of feed back so i figured it might get a little more over here.

I have recently aquired an Enfield rimfire, it has the double arrow surplus markings and was one of the team rifles at Dresden High school in ontario.
After that it was purchased in 69 when it stayed with one owner till i got it.
Unfortunatly the receiver peep was ground off.

There are a few things im wondering about it though, would it have been made a surplus rifle when it was rebarrled or was this done after the war?
Would this have been the original forestock or would it have had a full wood?
I noticed there is a hole through the barrel in front of the sight what hand guard set would this be used with? Where can i get one?
Oh and does anyone make a fiberoptic front sight for these?
Are there a bunch of these around and whats it worth?
Are the barrels shorter than standard enfields?
Is this a No1 Mrk3 receiver?

I took it shooting this afternoon, and am very pleased with it. At 50 yrds i was shooting popcans off hand, its an amazing shooter.

Cant get over the number of markings on it, i noticed a new one today, Canada is stamped on the butt stock. Well here are some pictures let me know what you can tell me about it.

MyEnfieldmarkings.jpg

IanC
 
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.22 trainer

Started life as a 1905 MKI SMLE .303. Converted in the 1920's to Patt 14 No.1 .22 training rifle. Patt 14 No.2's were converted from MKIII rifles. I have an original Patt 14 No.2 in my collection.Yours has been extensively modified over the years so only the receiver is original.
Still looks like a nice old .22 with a military past.
for more info or Google "Patt 14 No.1"
http://www.rifleman.org.uk/Enfield_Rifle_.22RF_Pattern_14.html

Cheers
Geoff
 
The body is from a .22 Pattern 1914 converted from a SMLE Converted MkII which was converted from a Long Lee.
 
Posters so far have given you a good history explaining the transition from 303 to 22. Interesting to note that the 22 conversion was done by Westly Richards. There are many modifications includingthe sight relocation...you can see the the original cross pin hole and the sight base hole on the barrel just in front of the rear sight. Barrel is dated "40" for 1940...might be a reline ? Forend and front sight from a No4. Interesting piece of history. I would put the rifles value around $200.00.
 
Jeez thats a lot of conversion. I didnt know what to think of it from the extensive markings. Im surprised it was worth while to keep it all up.
Well i can definatly tell you all i will be holding onto this one.
I would like to upgrade to the handguard and forend kit if anyone has parts

BTW its a solid one piece barrel

Thanks
IanC
 
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"...does anyone make a fiberoptic front sight for these?..." Not that I've ever seen. You might be able to adapt a Williams Firesight though. They run about $20US for a front sight.
 
IanC....adding a stock forend and top wood won't work for you unless you make some modifications to them. This is due to the sight base being located closer to the action than the original position. It means some inletting to the forestock to accept the base and the top wood needs to be modified....rear cut short and top lengthened or shortened depending on the barrel length. Post the barrel length behind and in front of the sight base and I can tell you more. It would look rather neat and may give you the tanker carbine look.
 
measured from the receiver to the back of the rear sight its 2 5/8"
From the front of the back sight to the muzzle its 15 5/8"
OAL from receiver to muzzle is 21 1/8"
I dont mind doing some work to the wood that is if i can find it with the hardware, there are a few shows coming to the area so i will cross my fingers.

Also it has an AG parker birmingham stamp to so does that mean it was also a .303cum.22?
IanC
 
Look at the muzzle end and see if there is a liner installed. You should see a 3/8" diameter line...post a picture and I'll tell you for sure. The Brits lined as well as rebarrelled. Where is "AG Parker" stamped on the rifle....top of barrel perhaps?

Putting No1 wood on this rifle is going to be a challenge. The dimension at the back of the sight is too small to allow the rear hand guard bracket to set down on the barrel.

My recommendation.

Option 1;

Move the rear sight block back to its original postion. You will need a new sight block. This will allow you to use the original rear top guard. Remove the No4 front sight guard and install the original No1 nose piece. This way you can modify the front top guard and forend without a lot of inletting changes. You would end up with a tanker carbine in 22 LR. Not too shabby.

Option 2;

Convert to a sporter stock in the traditional English style..."Lee Speed".

Option 3;

Sell the rifle and contribute the funds towards a full length 22 Enfield...most likely you cheapest option.

I favour Option 1 however it's a little bit of work.
 
I would not move the rear sight base.

I am currently working on an enfield and I have made a new shorter top handguard, it looks good :D

I've also spliced 2 bubba stocks together to make a longer forearm to match the shorter barrel (21") I've inleted the new forestock to for the rearsight being further back.

I'll have to update my thread with some pictures again on where this project is. I'm going to tackle making a new and unique nosecap for this one as well.

as for your rifle I would leave the No4 type front sight and try to replicate either the Jungle Carbine stock out of what you have or, go for a tanker like stock with the No4 profile. the third option and the hardest would be to go for the calvary carbine (LEC) look but the nose cap is going to be a problem, might have more luck going for the Irish Constabulary (RIC) nose cap
 
For sure it is rebarreld in 22 not a liner at all its solid. As for the AG parker stamp its on the receiver, the ring around the grip bellow the
22 PATT
14 No.1

Its very faint.

As for the wood im starting to think i would like a couple of stocks to play with but right now its going to stay as is untill i look into some different designs. Currently like it as is, a guy at the club thought it looked like a jungle so mabey i will do the handguard like that to keep the look. Ive got a dremel and like playing with wood so i think this could make for a fun winter project.
One more thing with this rifle it also had a receiver peep installed but unfortunatly it was ground off by a gunsmith.

Whatever i do the option will not be to sell it and get an original, I think all the extensive mods over the years makes i quite unique and one of the things i like about it.


IanC
 
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