Engine Oil??

guntech said:
What the hell are you talking about? What high heat does a lubricant need to stand up to with a firearm? The only part I know of that gets really hot is the bore of the rifle... and you sure should not be putting motor oil in it before each shot ...

I am still going to recommend G-96 Gun Treatment. It is silicone based and does not gum up with age, it does not attract and hold dust and dirt, it also does not become stiff at 60 degrees below zero.

I don't think that can be said of your motor oils.
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I have never seen a product that doesnt gum up and turn to crud. I have used G96 and was not happy with the results. I have tried oils from engine oil to lubricants that go for hundreds of bucks a litre. It all goes south - some sooner than later.

I usually only clean my pistol these days after it really needs it - every four to five thousand rounds. So I clean every two to three weeks or so. Vygur is a new ipsc shooter and is looking for something readily available and cheap. Engine oil is the way to go.

I dont know about anyone else but my pistol heats up like a mother after a few hundred rounds or so in a practise session.

Every lubricant gathers dust and turns into paste. I moved away from the NWT to get away from minus 60 but if anyone wants to shoot in a cold climate - go ahead.

There is no magic lube. Buy the cheap stuff and wipe off/re-apply often.
 
I use powder solvent to clean, but I have use LPS (liquid silicone spray) for over 40 years now with great results...won't gum, won't freeze, and powder won't stick to it (dry lube) so the whole receiver is easy to clean. Works for me in all my rifles and pistols.
 
You guys with your engine oil don't know what you are missing. Bacon grease - now that is the way to go. When you get hungry you can just wipe your barrel with a hankerchief and eat it, and it also draws in the bears. And then the second best is of course, bear grease!
 
Ok I was also told that Transmission fluid (for your car) may also be used... lol so much speculation eh? I heard one of the top IPSC shooters in the world secretly uses engine oil when needed to... don't remember their name
 
A little Castrol or Mobil 1 synthetic on a rag, wipe down the firearm inside and out, gtg. If it can lube a 300 horsepower engine I'm pretty sure my rifles and shotguns are ok with it. So far they seem happy.:D
 
I purchased a can of G96, and I wasn't totally impressed to say the least. It seems to dry off my guns and the lubricating properties leave much to be desired. IMHO you would be well ahead to use motor oil, or a better quality gun oil. However, if you are going to use an automotive product, I would recommend ATF or Hydraulic oil, which is basically the same thing. These oils are much lighter and the high pressure additives and detergents are not really necessary on a firearm. Machine oil would be good to, like the stuff you used to get in those little metal cans. I believe 3 IN 1 oil was one perticular brand name. This type of oil was used for small electric motors and sewing machines, etc.
 
A car and a firearm are both 'machines' and each represents a significant investment that's deserving of proper maintenance. I would no sooner dump a quart of CLP into my Subaru (that'd be damn expensive!) than I would use transmission fluid on my rifle.

Use the right tool - or in this case, the right lubricant - for the job.
 
guntech said:
I am still going to recommend G-96 Gun Treatment. It is silicone based and does not gum up with age, it does not attract and hold dust and dirt, it also does not become stiff at 60 degrees below zero.

I don't think that can be said of your motor oils.
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Yeah, Um, I don't do a whole lot of shooting at 60 below.... When It's that cold I'm usually inside by the fire.
 
Wally said:
Yeah, Um, I don't do a whole lot of shooting at 60 below.... When It's that cold I'm usually inside by the fire.
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Well if it was tested and did not fail at 60 below it certainly won't fail at 30 or 40 below or any temperature you hunt in... I have hunted in 40 below weather. I can't say I enjoyed it...
 
D_ said:
Gun oil is overpriced.
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Personally, If I'm gonna spend at least a thousand bucks on a base model pistol or rifle, have a thousand bucks or so invested into things like upgrades or reloading equipment to feed them, buy good scopes and brass etc... Hell if I can figure out how having some top of the line TW25B delivered straight to your door from the good old USA for twenty lousy bucks is gonna put anyone on the brink of financial disaster. :confused:
Taxes in this country are too high.
Gasoline and natural gas are grossly overpriced out here.
Bank service charges are out of control.
Food costs two to three times what it should :canadaFlag:.
Cable TV is the biggest scam going.
If the phone and gas company comes up with any more phony charges they're gonna need to add a fourth page to the bill... which i'm sure they'll find a way to charge us for...
Gun oil... is definitely not something priced so outrageously high as to worry about finding a substitution for.
Just my opinion.
 
Unless it was for long term storage, I don't see the applicability of a heavy automotive oil on my guns. Just attracts dirt. The aerosol oils made for guns, like G96 leave only the lightest film and that's ideal. I don't see them so much as a lubricant, as simply a protective film against condensation and acid in your finger prints.

What do you guys see as needing heavy lubricating?
 
A little oil is a good thing, properly applied in the right places. Too much oil on a gun stored vertically runs down into wooden stocks and damages the wood. A penetrating oil is too light to stay, a heavy oil may seize up in very cold temperatures. You can use a multigrade 5-w30 if you want to, but I think that a little bottle of gun oil used along with a bore cleaning solvent is designed for the purpose by chemists and will do a better job. It's not like you are going to use litres of the stuff.
 
Currently I'm using Hoppe's Elite gun oil. I've been using the same 2 ounce bottle for the past three years and it's about 2/3 used up. I know of people who use synthetic engine oil or ATF with no complaints or problems. When my bottle is used up I may go the synthetic ATF route. To each, their own. Any lube is better than no lube. Check this link out for more food for thought.

http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html
 
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