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army052

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im looking to get started in precision shooting. i just want everyones opinion on what is a good starter rifle. im just looking for out of the box set up right now. i can always add and modify later. my budget is around $1000 for the gun. im not looking for a perfect gun out of the box, i know this doesnt exist. im just looking for something that has good accuracy so i can practice before i spend big money

so far i have been looking at the rem 700 in 308. in either the sps tactical or varmint

i have also seen the new vtr, my local store has this one on sale right now so i was wonder what your opinion was on this

thanks for your help
 
How about a Savage FCP. It already comes with an HS precision stock so that's taken care of. Just put a quality scope on it and shoot till the barrel's gone. Once the factory barrel is gone spin on a match replacement and you're good to go.
 
Lots of options for around $1000.... I'd look into remingtons and savages mostly. You should be able to get one with a decent stock for $1000 if you're willing to look at slightly used 700P's or 5R's. The savage precision carbine with the accu-stock is right around that price level brand new. The sps Tactical and Varmint are great guns, but the stocks leave something to be desired.

I would probably leave the VTR... not a fan of the triangle barrel myself. That being said should shoot roughly the same as the sps tactical or varmint. Again the stock isn't that great. You can do better for the money.
 
Ducimus said:
How about a Savage FCP. It already comes with an HS precision stock so that's taken care of. Just put a quality scope on it and shoot till the barrel's gone. Once the factory barrel is gone spin on a match replacement and you're good to go.
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I was thinking of the same thing....

Also in 2010 Savage is coming out with a Long Range Hunter. I am hoping it is half as good as predicted....
 
Okay, I've decided on the calibre and rifle but what about the scope and rings? What do I NEED, since I already know what I WANT:D
 
It does not matter what gun you buy off the shelf, they all shoot about the same. Some good, some bad, most in between. Find one that you like or that you find comfortable. Don't get sucked into thinking more money means more accurate.

Look to the ability to make upgrades later. The pursuit of precision requires you to master not only shooting, but reloading. You require top quality optics, a match grade barrel and and chamber with a stock that fits you and the gun properly. You also need a tuned trigger and a proper rest set-up.
 
As far as scopes go, bushnel still has decent optics for under 500 with enough options. I know a banner 6-18 isn't prime, but start with something like that. Weaver for the rest will suite ya fine for now. Like it's been said, focus on having the ability to upgrade. And if you are starting out, that's all you'll need.
 
Savage 10FP, 110FP and any scope you want. They are well under a $1000 and with quality ammunition will most likely shoot better than you can.
 
Army for the money you cannot buy better than savage 10fp with accutrigger simple, under $1000 and simply a 1/2 moa rifle(or better). Remington has the reputation as many forces use them but Savage has surpased them in out of the box accuracy, according to most custom builders. There are more options with remingtons but the savage although a club will shoot more accurately and cost you less. I have one and a sko trg 22. i cannot say the sako is more accurate, I'd be lying, the savage is that good, although I hate pretty much everything about it. Looks, feel, weight balance, but none of that affects accuray of the rifle. No I won't sell it either as it has the folding choate stock which is no longer imported.
 
dizzy said:
Army for the money you cannot buy better than savage 10fp with accutrigger simple, under $1000 and simply a 1/2 moa rifle(or better). Remington has the reputation as many forces use them but Savage has surpased them in out of the box accuracy, according to most custom builders. There are more options with remingtons but the savage although a club will shoot more accurately and cost you less. I have one and a sko trg 22. i cannot say the sako is more accurate, I'd be lying, the savage is that good, although I hate pretty much everything about it. Looks, feel, weight balance, but none of that affects accuray of the rifle. No I won't sell it either as it has the folding choate stock which is no longer imported.
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If your TRG22 is less accurate than your Savage, then there's something either wrong with it, or you just haven't found the the best loading for it yet.

TRG22's have a reputation for accuracy that surpasses that of Savage, by far.
 
2bad, I would agree with you but there is nothing wrong my trg, it shoots as its designed to... the surprise is my savage is keeping up! maybe I lucked out and got a good savage. the trg gets used, the Savage is relegated to the safe now as i don't like shooting it much due to its ergonomics. I won't be sending the TRG back as I am confident it will shoot 1/4 MOA at 100m with the right loads. Both rifles actually shot 3/4 inch groups at 200m when sighting them in and I am by no means a great shot.
 
Been There Did This

Army I recently went through the same issues trying to buy my first precision (learning) rifle. I elected to go with the 700 in the SPS tactical because of the endless ability to upgrade as I go. Initially I spent more on the scope than the rifle. I elected to go with a long range Leupold Target with Mark 4 rings and bases. As I began shooting step 1 was a trigger tune. Now a stock is on order (Hogue is nice but not a precision instrument). I have a lot of learning to do still, and I have plenty of room to tinker and customize my rifle as I grow with it. Eventually I plan to start rolling my own ammo but at this point my shooting isn't consistent enough to compare loads. Good Luck
 
Taylor-Made said:
Army I recently went through the same issues trying to buy my first precision (learning) rifle. I elected to go with the 700 in the SPS tactical because of the endless ability to upgrade as I go. Initially I spent more on the scope than the rifle. I elected to go with a long range Leupold Target with Mark 4 rings and bases. As I began shooting step 1 was a trigger tune. Now a stock is on order (Hogue is nice but not a precision instrument). I have a lot of learning to do still, and I have plenty of room to tinker and customize my rifle as I grow with it. Eventually I plan to start rolling my own ammo but at this point my shooting isn't consistent enough to compare loads. Good Luck
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Sage advice from a guy who's doing it right.
 
A good set-up that doesn't totally break the budget is one I went with when I was figuring out whether I wanted to shoot semi-precision/long-range: a Savage 10Fp in .223, EGW base, TPS rings and a Falcon Menace 4.5x18x56. I didn't like the entry level plastic stock that the rifle came with but couldn't justify a real pricey aftermarket stock so I went with the ( don't laugh ) the Choate Tool Ultimate Varmint stock. This set-up shoots consistent half minute at 100m and I used it at the 08 Frosty Farky without totally embarrasing myself. Overall, it is a very good combo that didn't break the bank on purchase and is cheap to feed and I still use it (now with upgraded optics) and enjoy shooting it.
 
thanks for the advice everbody.

i finally decided on the reminton 700 VTR in .308. i know a few people didnt think it was the best for the money, but i didnt see anything saying to stay away from it completly. i am the kind of person that likes to try new things, and i know that its not the most common gun that everybody has for this application. but im always up for trying new things.

if have been told it should shoot the same as the sps varmit and tactical, so if it is true i will be happy

thanks again for the advice
 
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