Evaulation help on a Ithica damascus SxS please

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This one is a little outside of my comfort zone and it may be on the table for a trade item. Been going through my resources and it's still eluding me. I'm not going to be one of those guys who asks for an evaluation and claims not to want to sell it only to list it a week later, this one's going to be for sale should I take it in.

So my question here is what would be a good offer to make the present owner that wouldn't be insulting to him but allow me to sell it and make a $ or at least break even. Of course I'd like to list it at a price that it's not going to sit on the EE for months, I prefer fast sales :D.

Basically I'm looking for a value that would be fair to offer him and what I should be able to sell it at fairly quickly.

Condition;

Both barrels are good with no damage, smooth bore non rifled. Extractor is working along with both tiggers and strikers working. 12ga.

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Thanks for the assistance :D.
 
Can't help with valuation, but that is a higher grade gun from of America's classic makers. It is a dandy, looks to be in nice condition.
 
Pretty gun and it is above a field grade example of an Ithaca. The damascus barrel guns seem to be hard to sell even with nitro proofs. Personally I would offer $800-$1000 for it but I am no authority on Ithaca shotguns whatsoever. I wouldn't be shocked to see that gun with an asking price of $1500 OBO. My 2 cents. If you get it for around a grand and it doesn't move, you might get stuck with it but I can think of worse things.
 
"...even with nitro proofs..." That's because they're unreliable with damascus barrels.
I'd be thinking about doing a net search for Ithaca collectors to get a ball park value. If there is such a site, it'll likely be U.S. based, but you'll at least get an idea. One of the collector grade retailer sites might help. iCollector, et al.
 
Go to the 'Not SSMBS" website, lots of shooters like me who enjoy shooting Damascus barreled shotguns. That Ithaca is much sought after and someone will give you information and an approximate value. That is a valuable gun.
 
It would be around a $1500.00 gun in the US. In this country, probably $600.00-$700.00 if you are looking for a fast sale. If you are not real concerned about a super fast sale, you will probably get a bit more to someone who wants a damascus barreled vintage gun. But again, a small market in Canada. By the way, there is nothing wrong with shooting these damascus guns with proper loads if the gun checks out to be safe. If one wants to shoot modern, high pressure loads, then a gun like this is not for them.
 
Nice Ithaca Lewis model grade 3 -- Value (full retail) $1400.00 in very good condition, $800.00 in good. $400.00 for fair. They were offered in several grades: 1, 1 special,1 1/2, 2, 3, 4,up to 7
 
Well some of the opinions I'm getting are widely varied ;).

Here's a couple of more pics and some info as well.

Everything is serial number matching, functional, no nitro proofs anywhere to be found.

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If you can get a date of manufacture the smokeless powder thing should go away. Any higher grade American double made post 1900 should be smokeless load capable(with low brass loads). The nitro proof is mainly a British/European thing in that they all had national proofhouses to certify that their guns would withstand a certain load. In North America the manufacturer assumed responsibility for the quality of the gun. I owned a British damascus barrel 16 gauge double that was nitro proofed in 1904, shot fine with the old Canuck low brass loads.
 
Mike Webb said:
If you can get a date of manufacture the smokeless powder thing should go away. Any higher grade American double made post 1900 should be smokeless load capable(with low brass loads). The nitro proof is mainly a British/European thing in that they all had national proofhouses to certify that their guns would withstand a certain load. In North America the manufacturer assumed responsibility for the quality of the gun. I owned a British damascus barrel 16 gauge double that was nitro proofed in 1904, shot fine with the old Canuck low brass loads.
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You won't find the proof marks you are looking for on that Elsie, but if you go to the owner's website you will be able to find out.
They are gorgeous guns , well made, and if it's into the smokeless era i would not hesitate to shoot it if I owned it.
I own many Damascus guns, some of them nitro proofed from England and some not.
They are all shot with lower pressure smokeless , and/or black powder loads.
I would not hesitate to jump on that it it were for sale for $1,000 and I was looking for one.

Cat
 
loki_81 said:
Hey Cat,

Are you talking about the quote from Mike that you're addressing or wouldn't hesitate to jump on the one I'm posting for $1000? ;)
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Your gun , Loki.:>)
I like Damascus barrelled guns and to find them in good shooting order is getting harder and harder to do.
However, being a box lock with a POW grip is a bit of a deal breaker for me- I like side locks and English grips!
Cat
 
Beautiful gun, gorgeous wood. But it looks like all of the screws have been worked, and not returned to their aligned positions. Bottom of action, sides, trigger guard bow. It also looks like the stock has been repaired where it meets the action, no? I wonder if that wood has been refinished as well. It worries me that the screws aren't in their proper position, as a possible sign it wasn't worked on by a competent gunsmith. It may mean nothing, ultimately, but it stands out as sloppy.
 
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