stormbringer
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I understand that these are made in Toronto.
Can anyone PM me some contact data?
Can anyone PM me some contact data?
Excel Bullets
- Thread starter stormbringer
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Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
Storm,
It is Marty Martinello off the Queensway.
Martinello Importing Co Limited
21 Goodrich Drive
Toronto, Ont.
(416) 255-0667
Talk with some of the IPSC guys down your way, he usually gives them a very good price when they buy a good sized oreder. If not one is buying lright now let me know, I will find out when the guys up this way are puting in another order.
It is Marty Martinello off the Queensway.
Martinello Importing Co Limited
21 Goodrich Drive
Toronto, Ont.
(416) 255-0667
Talk with some of the IPSC guys down your way, he usually gives them a very good price when they buy a good sized oreder. If not one is buying lright now let me know, I will find out when the guys up this way are puting in another order.
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Has Marty's quality control improved?
I have used lots of them but there were some batches where you could get better accuracy by throwing the bullets at the target.
Still, it is easy to weed out the undersided ones, they just drop right down into a sized case.
I have used lots of them but there were some batches where you could get better accuracy by throwing the bullets at the target.
Still, it is easy to weed out the undersided ones, they just drop right down into a sized case.
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
Not really, but they are cheap and you are correct, some of the batches were not as good as others. I find Excel very inconsistant, but still cheap shooting. I mean you would not buy Excel to shoot bulleye, but for IPSC or CDP/IDPA they are good.
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This feels like remember when day, but the best cast bullets I ever used were from Accurate Bullet Company, made by Brian Marino up in Wiarton. Marty undercut his prices and put him out of business. To be fair, that is the nature of business, but it still pisses me off that we lost a great supplier to a cheaper poorer quality product.
Excel bullets are also great for pistols in Cowboy Action, where the targets are not only close but big also. For my pistol caliber carbine where accuracy is needed ot to 50-60 yds, I go with bullets from the bullet barn.
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
I buy what ever Williams has in 9mm jacketed. Right now a friend who hates lead, as do I, gave me 3000 rounds of DRG 125gr LRN, so even though I am not a big fan of lead, I am loading thses, and they are working well. Excel is not the best out there.
I found that the 200 gr'ers in 45 ACP were good and the 135gr'ers in 38 Super when resized to .356 for 9mm were fine. as were the 158 LSWC for 38 Special were OK.
Now in just use plated, but I will use the remaining lead for outdoor shooting.
Now in just use plated, but I will use the remaining lead for outdoor shooting.
SandRoad said:Has Marty's quality control improved?
I have used lots of them but there were some batches where you could get better accuracy by throwing the bullets at the target.
Still, it is easy to weed out the undersided ones, they just drop right down into a sized case.
I bought a number of boxes cheap. What a waste of money.
I'm talking about the plated bullets. They were not round. They were pear shaped, wider near the bottom than the top. I thought I could use them to practice shooting. I was not concerned about bullseye. Just wanted the lead to go down range. Yes you can weed some out by dropping them in a sized case. Unfortunately since they were not round they still could pass this test and be too small. After the size test I would load them and find a lot of them would not be firmly held in place. The taper crimp was not able to hold the bullet in place because of the pear shape bullet. These were pure sh*t. I have had some real good regular lead bullets from Excel but I would never touch their plated bullets again.Rudy H said:
I weed them out as I am loading on a progressive. When placed them on top of a case you can feel them slide right down into the case. For putting lead downrange when I don't really care, it doesn't matter if it not round, as long as the crimp will hold the bullet.
Icq, the ones I have don't have any waxy goo on them.
But again, pricewise, if you pick them up, nothing else comes close.
Rudy H said:I bought a number of boxes cheap. What a waste of money.
I had a box of their plated bullets given to me, no wonder, they nwere out of round, but I resized them through a Lee sizing die and then they weren't too bad.
Never had a problem with Frontiers.
RePete said:
Sizing only works if they are bigger than the die.
If I could have the crimp hold the bullet securely I would have been happy enough. On some that I loaded (and thought the crimp was good) when I chamber the round sometimes the bullet would be pushed back into the case. When that happens you have drastically reduced the case volume and have a potentially dangerous situation.
If you end up throwing away 20% and fought with the rest then it sure ain't no bargain. The part that pissed me off the most was the quality claim and guarantee on the box. I forget what it said but "premium" or "match grade" or something like that.
As I said before, I had used Excel's lead cast (and sized) bullets and was real happy with them. I did not experience any sticky lube as described above. Would I buy their lead bullets again? Yes but only after I had a look at them and measured them.
RePete said:
You can't make them round if the widest part of the bullet is the same size as the diameter of the die. If my bullets at the widest part are .451 and at the narrowest (90 degress away) are .447 then your .451 sizing die will do nothing to it. And this was the widest part of the bullet. As you go up from the base to where the mouth of the case should be the bullets were narrower yet. Run it through the sizer all you want it does not expand the diameter.
