Experiences with recent 700s?
- Thread starter Joel
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Careful, that handle is only brazed on
Got it covered Joel!
Gotta be gentle with a Model 700 or it might accidentally discharge. Even after it’s been fired, stuck a case with no bolt handle.
I’ve heard it all (I think). They are bankrupt trigger-trash primary extraction lacking garbage.
I hunted with one today, taken them from Alaska to Zimbabwe. There is no better rifle I have found. But they do miss, I’ll give you that.
dgradinaru
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Mike walker the designer of the rem 700,721, and trigger did speak against his own design of the trigger. He came up with a fix, but Remington was to cheap to do the 5 cent update. Many have lost limb and life to the "Remington moment"..... something Remington could have fixed but they were to cheap and only in it for the profits. So much for American quality.
dgradinaru
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You won’t find a walker trigger on a new model 700 unfortunately. Millions (?) of walker triggers have functioned fine for decades. Some people don’t maintain their guns properly. Or perform trigger adjustments without knowing what they are doing. This is the triggers fault of course.
RangerPark
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I must be truly lucky. None of the dozen or so Remington 700 I have owned in the last 3 years have had any primary extraction problems. Or trigger problems. Our any problems at all really. All were recent production except 1. Out of curiosity, I took apart the bolts on the 6 I currently have on hand and found they had perfect bolt timing. 5 of those recent production and another one from the years before the X-Mark Pro trigger. Again, no primary extraction problems. Or any problems. I must truly be a lucky guy.
Either very lucky or, perhaps, blissfully ignorant. As I said, if you all are happy with things as they are, that's wonderful. For what it's worth (not much with this crowd), I think the Walker trigger was just fine as long as the parts were within spec; dimensionally. Some, made in the late seventies to early eighties, were not. The brazed handle was also just fine; providing the joint was a good one. In the fifteen years or so that I did Remington warranty repair, I don' think I saw more than a half dozen which failed. I recall one on which the handle was broken but the root of the handle was still attached to the bolt body. This one had been fired with a severe overload and a piece of wood used in an attempt to get it open.
Bottom line? No one has to believe me but I'm pretty familiar with them. I don't solicit work and I have nothing to prove.
Bottom line? No one has to believe me but I'm pretty familiar with them. I don't solicit work and I have nothing to prove.
Sounds to me like you guys are both right, and saying the same thing.
Most users will never have a problem with their 700s and be perfectly happy with them. Even when used hard.
If something goes wrong, like the overpressure load (reloader error) or dirty cruddy ammo or ammo fired in a pitted chamber etc, *some* users are going to find that lifting the bolt handle without any mechanical advantage involved from the camming surfaces connecting is not a nice thing.
Neither fact is mutually exclusive
Just my view from the cheap seats.
Most users will never have a problem with their 700s and be perfectly happy with them. Even when used hard.
If something goes wrong, like the overpressure load (reloader error) or dirty cruddy ammo or ammo fired in a pitted chamber etc, *some* users are going to find that lifting the bolt handle without any mechanical advantage involved from the camming surfaces connecting is not a nice thing.
Neither fact is mutually exclusive
Just my view from the cheap seats.
Leepers integrity as far as firearms go is above reproach.
His work is quality and his observations are valid.
I have a couple of examples of his rifle builds in my safe.
But different individuals may see things differently. That
does not make their observations incorrect. Dave.
His work is quality and his observations are valid.
I have a couple of examples of his rifle builds in my safe.
But different individuals may see things differently. That
does not make their observations incorrect. Dave.
In actual fact I have a half dozen Remingtons but all are target rifles. None are in stock configuration. One uses nearly 100% of the extraction cam in primary extraction because I made the bolt. I do not currently hunt with a Remington though I have in the past. A question was posed and, having worked on more 700's than most have seen, I offered my experience-based opinion. Typically, this offended some owners. My apologies to those so offended.
