Explain pricing of antiques

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Can someone explain how someone can expect almost 3K for a refinished antique revolver?

I can understand all original, matching numbers, not re-blued and basically not ####ed with.

Who would buy something overpriced or am I out to lunch!
 
It's all supply and demand. Welcome to capitalism....You can ask what you want for anything. Its up to the buyer to pay or not. Only real freedom we still have.
 
Personally I agree, 100%. No way in heck I'm paying premium for a refinished anything, especially if it isn't all original. I have a couple antique rifles guys have tried to "renew" and I paid less - waaayyy less - because of it. Couple hundred instead of a couple thousand. But every time I look at these rifles I shake my head, the "refinish" process has wrecked the roll stamping, it isn't original wood, wrong sights, etc. I'll take rust over renew anyday; and I wish I'd paid more for the real deal.

But that's only my opinion - if someone else wants to pay more, that's their perogative. "whatever the market will bear"...
 
It is what the market will bear, same as anything that is for sale.
Price asked for is not necessarily what it goes for. In the end, if you aren't willing to pay the asking price, submit your offer or move along.
The price is a refection of what the objects' worth is to the seller. If it's not worth that to you, well...
 
Can someone explain how someone can expect almost 3K for a refinished antique revolver?

I can understand all original, matching numbers, not re-blued and basically not f**ked with.

Who would buy something overpriced or am I out to lunch!

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These things are not being sold as antique collectibles.
They are being sold as pistols that are exempt from licencing and registration because of antique status.
There is a big difference.
Such guns have 0 value as antiques, but substantial value as unpapered, unlicenced guns.
 
Personally I agree, 100%. No way in heck I'm paying premium for a refinished anything, especially if it isn't all original. I have a couple antique rifles guys have tried to "renew" and I paid less - waaayyy less - because of it. Couple hundred instead of a couple thousand. But every time I look at these rifles I shake my head, the "refinish" process has wrecked the roll stamping, it isn't original wood, wrong sights, etc. I'll take rust over renew anyday; and I wish I'd paid more for the real deal.

But that's only my opinion - if someone else wants to pay more, that's their perogative. "whatever the market will bear"...

Thats my point i also would rather have a rust laden firearm without the ten dollar blue job.

I will have to look into getting one from the US that is not bubbad to death.
 
These things are not being sold as antique collectibles.
They are being sold as pistols that are exempt from licencing and registration because of antique status.
There is a big difference.
Such guns have 0 value as antiques, but substantial value as unpapered, unlicenced guns.

Never thought of that I guess. :(
 
I own more than a few antiques... I sell them on the ee for fair prices.

My grandmother had a saying about those that assume...

Cheers.

Do you have any Webleys you wanna sell for a fair price? Ive been wanting to pick one up, but as of late they seem to have almost doubled in price. Last year they fetched 1000-1500, now they're all selling for 2000-2500! :yingyang:
 
These things are not being sold as antique collectibles.
They are being sold as pistols that are exempt from licencing and registration because of antique status.
There is a big difference.
Such guns have 0 value as antiques, but substantial value as unpapered, unlicenced guns.

Bingo!

Wait till you see what happens to antique prices when talks of handgun bans start heating up again.
 
I own more than a few antiques... I sell them on the ee for fair prices.

My grandmother had a saying about those that assume...

Cheers.

Think of this (my 1892 forsale) on the ones with under a 4.2" barrel It's like a Prohibited gun! And that makes ppl Want them!


if u where to pay a gun smith to do this job this is what you would be looking at!


Out of 10 Colt 1892's that you buy online 9 out of 10 of them need a LOT of work.
So it is REAL Rare to find one that locks up 100% !


Colt 1892 base Price from what I seen over the year 800-1500 In need of Repair...(if Antique ) Even if they Say it's in VG shape They LIE!!


SO...


Say Gun $1000.00
Used smokeless Cylinder $150-250
Used 38 spl Barrel $100-150
Nice Grips (most guns have Cracked Grips $30-100
Full Spring Kit $125.00
Screw Kit $25
New Hand $65
NEW Cylinder Stop $55
NEW Ejector Ratchet $100
NEW Cylinder Latch $100


Now For the Gun smith Bills to install all that... (Some Smiths Will Charge you a flat Rate on this. But still works out to close to the same!


Cleaning of Gun $49.00
Remove&Install Barrel $189
Change all Springs $100
Install New Cylinder/Hand/Ratchet $275
Replace And Tune/Fit Cylinder Ratchet $90.00
Install / Fit new Cylinder Latch $109
Final Inspection / Time Gun $100
Metal Work / Re Blue $269
Fit Grips $30
Custom Letter Stamping on barrel $100


Total cost $3000 +-

SO i say it's worth 2600-3000 on Trade! And if you ever get to buy a 1892 thats works 100% Trust me ! they are Well worth the price to get them going!!!!


But Good Luck Finding A Gun Smith to take on a Job like this! Trust me! I called and got a Quote from over 20 smiths in Canada
 
Do you have any Webleys you wanna sell for a fair price? Ive been wanting to pick one up, but as of late they seem to have almost doubled in price. Last year they fetched 1000-1500, now they're all selling for 2000-2500! :yingyang:

Sorry, I have two but only one is with me. The other is with my smith.

I noticed that they were very high in the ee here. I've also notice a lot of "ok to use factory ammo" one seller had pictures of jhp ammo in his ad... I'm not sure if guys are getting these big numbers or if that's just an asking price.

I agree with the theory that the value is in the freedom these old gals provide. A pre 1899 colt saa in .38spl wouldn't fetch the high price in the u.s. as it would here...

Star puss, sorry bud your price is sky high. Cabbelas has an 1892 in .41 for around $700usd. Oh, and your "gunsmith" is ripping you off.
 
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Star puss, sorry bud your price is sky high. Cabbelas has an 1892 in .41 for around $700usd. Oh, and your "gunsmith" is ripping you off.

The one they had for 2 years???> thats not antique???

Call some Gun Smiths , you will see what they will charge! Hell most will NOT take on a job like this!

And the Price Cannot be "sky high" seeing i let 4 go at close to that price and have like 3 ppl on a list that want one!

i sold over 20 1892's over the last 10 years.

Also look at what the Colt 1873's are selling for ! like 5k for a nice redone one and they Sell REAL fast!
 
It also comes down to the ammo, ie: .41 Colt vs .38spl, which is easier to load for or even buy at the gun store?

I know that. Starrpuss is saying a gun would cost x... I'm just saying his prices are high. In fact he has listed parts on this web site for far cheaper than he as listed in this thread. It seems a little... Well, inconstant.:rolleyes:
 
Call some Gun Smiths , you will see what they will charge! Hell most will NOT take on a job like this!

Also true, a lot do not like working on antique guns because they do not understand the laws so you'll have trouble finding one who will chop a barrel to 3" and be okay with it. Or they simple don't have the knowledge of the gun's inner workings and any spare parts.
 
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