Extended choke benefits ?

Trap Club: easy/quick to change out tubes with my O/U's ....

Hunting: same thing, yes its needed to change out: when their landing in top of you - during those occasions with Snows for example, I like to use Cyl, when they are farther away - your back to Mod or tighter constriction Goose chokes etc....

Easy/quick to change out
 
Falconflyer said:
Yeah, I've compared quite a few aftermarket chokes to factory ones too and very few have made a noticeable difference. As I mentioned previously, the Muller Featherweights I'm using now are some of the few where I've seen an improvement and throw very consistent patterns.
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When I purchased my Blaser F-3 used, some Muller stainless competition chokes came with it. They produce excellent patterns, but they also build up far less wad fouling, and they stay tight, when tightened with only fingers. They are by far, my favorite chokes for those reasons.
 
The Featherweights I'm using also build up very little plastic wad fouling, less than any other choke I've used.

I don't tighten my tubes more than just finger tight and even then just snug, they will shoot loose if I run them dry but I put lots of grease on the threads and that will keep them from loosening up. I do check them every couple of stations but I try to not tighten them when the barrels are hot or they will be over tight when the barrels cool.
 
Falconflyer said:
The Featherweights I'm using also build up very little plastic wad fouling, less than any other choke I've used.

I don't tighten my tubes more than just finger tight and even then just snug, they will shoot loose if I run them dry but I put lots of grease on the threads and that will keep them from loosening up. I do check them every couple of stations but I try to not tighten them when the barrels are hot or they will be over tight when the barrels cool.
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I use anti seize, and generally check for tightness before a day of shooting, but they never come loose. I actually prefer the extra weight of the stainless chokes, with my F-3, as it helps the balance.
 
I had Muller featherlite chokes for a Beretta A400 xplor 28 gauge(no longer own), and I agree as what has been stated by stubblejumper & Falconflyer. I do have to say I have Carlson's chokes and no issues & good overall patterns & performance, Briley chokes have been good and the only extended chokes that I wasn't impressed with was Patternmaster.
 
Grouse Man said:
Yep. The other great benefit is that if somehow the muzzle bangs against something hard, the extended choke takes the hit. On flush mount, the edge of the barrel is now deformed.
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This was mentioned in post 23 by Mr Bill
Falconflyer said:
I'm actually the opposite, I didn't want any more weight forward on my High Tech and went with the aluminum tubes, the gun is balanced perfectly for me.
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Well with a cheap gun like that, does it really matter HAHA now thats funny. Nice pipe pal!! I love my Mullers and they work awesome in my MX8 sporting. My MX8 Mirage has Briley thin walls in the one set of barrels that seem to work very well. I just go by how the targets break. Only patterning I do anymore is for Waterfowl and Turkeys. Cheers all
 
Do not use extended ported chokes or with Federal Flight Control shells.
 
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1ABNDT said:
Do not use extended chokes with Federal Flight Control shells.
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Why?

I am shooting all my Flightcontrol loads through extended chokes .... Flightcontrol buckshot, Flightcontrol bismuth, Flightconrol TSS, Flightcontrol BlackCloud steel, and Flightcontrol PrairieStorm upland loads ..... And I have not encountered any issues whatsoever.
 
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SHELL SHUCKER said:
I would agree on that. I use them only in my cyl bore 12 ga and they print tight at 25 yds. Never ran them thru any of my choke tube
equipped guns even though Federal & Hornady (which makes similar loads) say you can go as tight as modified choke if desired.

https://thatshotgunblog.wordpress.com/2020/08/29/federals-flite-control-vs-hornadys-versa-tite/
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Never tried the Hornady.

The extended chokes tend to strip the flight control shell to soon ruining its natural pattern, at least that's what the Beretta Optima HP ext ported chokes do.
 
SHELL SHUCKER said:
I would agree on that. I use them only in my cyl bore 12 ga and they print tight at 25 yds. Never ran them thru any of my choke tube
equipped guns even though Federal & Hornady (which makes similar loads) say you can go as tight as modified choke if desired.

https://thatshotgunblog.wordpress.com/2020/08/29/federals-flite-control-vs-hornadys-versa-tite/
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And why would one not shoot a Flightcontrol buckshot load through an extended modified choke .... but a flush mount modified choke would be fine?

I have shot my Flightcontrol buckshot loads through an extended extra full choke ..... and with good results.
 
1ABNDT said:
Never tried the Hornady.

The extended chokes tend to strip the flight control shell to soon ruining its natural pattern, at least that's what the Beretta Optima HP ext ported chokes do.
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1ABNDT, I hope you realize that not all extended chokes are ported! Shooting Flightcontrol loads through non-ported extended chokes works just fine. I have patterned many different Flightcontrol loads .... and so far all of those loads have benefited from being shot though an extended choke of some sort!

Carlson makes a .640 extended turkey choke for Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS loads and which is a Flightcontrol load.

The following statement is just not true ....
"Do not use extended chokes with Federal Flight Control shells."

Now if you had said .... "make sure you pattern your gun if you use Flightcontrol ammo with ported extend chokes" .... then I would agree. Ported chokes might have a negative impact on Flightcontrol wads ..... That is one reason why I don't use ported chokes.
 
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0faustus0 said:
And why would one not shoot a Flightcontrol buckshot load through an extended modified choke .... but a flush mount modified choke would be fine?

I have shot my Flightcontrol buckshot loads through an extended extra full choke ..... and with good results.
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My dedicated buck & ball gun is cyl bore and not threaded for tubes. My guns for clays are and I've not tried the flight control ammo in 'em and
they all have extended chokes which have worked fine fer me over the yrs.
 
0faustus0 said:
1ABNDT, I hope you realize that not all extended chokes are ported! Shooting Flightcontrol loads through non-ported extended chokes works just fine. I have patterned many different Flightcontrol loads .... and so far all of those loads have benefited from being shot though an extended choke of some sort!

Carlson makes a .640 extended turkey choke for Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS loads and which is a Flightcontrol load.

The following statement is just not true ....
"Do not use extended chokes with Federal Flight Control shells."

Now if you had said .... "make sure you pattern your gun if you use Flightcontrol ammo with ported extend chokes" .... then I would agree. Ported chokes might have a negative impact on Flightcontrol wads ..... That is one reason why I don't use ported chokes.
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đź‘ŤI do, I fixed it. Ty. Ported chokes strip the flight control shell, tighter chokes are stripping the Flite Control cup from the pellets sooner, and that results in a more open pattern. Flite Control and the other knockoffs on the market should all be shot with a cylinder choke
 
1ABNDT said:
đź‘ŤI do, I fixed it. Ty. Ported chokes strip the flight control shell, tighter chokes are stripping the Flite Control cup from the pellets sooner, and that results in a more open pattern. Flite Control and the other knockoffs on the market should all be shot with a cylinder choke
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Uffffffff ..... this is again completely wrong!!!!!!!!!

I am shooting a 12ga 870 with a Carlson .640 extended turkey choke and with Federal Premium Heavyweight TSS loads.
Those loads have a Flightcontrol wad .... and with that extended turkey choke, those Flightcontrol loads create nice tight patterns.

I patterned that load through an Improved Cylinder choke and the pattern was useless.

Again, this statement is wrong!!!
"Flite Control and the other knockoffs on the market should all be shot with a cylinder choke"

1.) The Flightcontrol wad helps to improve the pattern in Cylinder or Improved Cylinder shotguns (or any other open choke).
2.) And Flitecontrol loads in general benefit from a choke and to tighten up patterns. The question is how much choke? And that is where we pattern our guns.

I am getting beautiful tight patterns with a turkey choke and Federal Flightcontrol TSS ammo. And that turkey choke was designed by Carlson for that Flightcontrol ammo!

p.s.: 1ABNDT, how many Flightcontrol loads have you patterned with different chokes?
 
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1ABNDT said:
Never tried the Hornady.

The extended chokes tend to strip the flight control shell to soon ruining its natural pattern, at least that's what the Beretta Optima HP ext ported chokes do.
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You are making assumptions based on one choke, and one load, all extended chokes, or all ported chokes are not alike.
 
Further not all Flightcontrol wads are the same! There are several versions out there. The newer versions have been designed so that they can be shot through extended ported chokes. Now, I never tried this ... so I don't know how well those Flightcontrol Flex wads shoot out of an extended ported choke .... but that is what Federal claims.

https://www.americanhunter.org/cont...d-flitecontrol-flex-now-good-with-all-chokes/
 
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