F Class Type Rig - Please Advise

Tube gun Option for F

Have built 2 of the single shot models now.One on a Rem700 and the second on
a PGW M15. Easy switch butstocks, forends ,grips and barrels.
3 more are in build stages.
Repeater kits available using AI mags.May want to lookup "Tubeguns" and talk to Kevin
Forends have been designed and built for bipod as well as squared and flats for
rifle rests.
Easy to adjust to fit shooter and shooting style.
May not be the "purdiest iron" on the mound to some ,but sure works well for me.
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Lotsa ways to go .
 
Twogunz: I was looking at the thicker recoil lug, what advantage is there to getting one. Also according to what I've read the 5R comes with a HS Precision stock. When I get it will I be able to tell that it has an aluminum block, should be I figure.

I have re-thought my scope options and have decided on a Nikon 2.5-10x tacti-cool. More $$$ but, oh well too late.......

ONT0001, you obviously have little respect for the money I earn! :p I checked out their website and for a while actually started to work out the numbers. I really like the concept, very tempting since I prefer a pistol grip and like the repeater idea. Mmmmm......
 
In case you haven't purchased the rifle yet, DON'T. I don't hate the 308 or Rem but there are now so many better choices.

Assuming the factory Rem would cost upwards of $1000, you have so many options today especially in the factory rifle. You can spin on a match barrel for that type of coin too.

First off, get a better cartridge. Unless dictated to use the 308, ie TR/Palma class, it is the worse ballistic vs recoil rd that can fit in a short action. 243, 260, 7-08 are head and shoulders better ballistically and do so with up to 50% less recoil.

In comp shooting, reducing recoil is paramount as it lowers shooter fatigue which improves concentration and your score.

If you must use the 308, then the 223 in a fast twist will do the same thing with 1/4 the recoil and 1/2 the cost. Trigger time is everything in LR shooting. That costs money and shoulder wear and tear. Just look at the domination of the 223 in all service rifle shoots in the US. It works!!!!

If you don't mind a 2lbs trigger (personally, I would choose something as light as possible), a Savage 12FV w/Accutrigger in 243 or 7-08 would be just about perfect. Ditch the stock and pick up a proper Prone/Fclass stock from Ian R. Stock fit matters enormously and the HS offers little more then the orig Savage or Rem, alum bed aside.

You will find the Mcm A5 or SAKO TRG Or AI stock shape to be far more comfortable to shoot off bipods. I prefer thumbholes stocks but a vertical pistol grip really helps to reduce wrist fatigue which improves trigger control. In F class, you do alot of shooting so you better be comfy and on the ball. Wiggling around or getting sore anything is going to cost you points.

As one very good F class shooter told me, when he gets set up prone and on the bipod, he is so comfy that he can just fall asleep.

If handy with tools, the orig Savage stock can be rebuilt to fit you. Probably the best way to get a proper stock fit. Take the time and view some pics of stocks used in competition. Look at all the moveable parts so that head/eye/shoulder and body can be kept in proper alignment. You become the bench and if you are always wobbling/shifting, thanks for playing...

For optics, a 10X will be on the low side. The nikon is a superb scope but for comp use having 16X or higher is not a bad thing. Also, mil dots or some sort of marked reticle will become an enormous aid for quick doping and shot adjustment. Chasing turrents is a huge source of error and driver fatigue.

Watch the flags and conditions, not the dials on your scope. I dial only when changing range. Windage is done using the 'dots'.

Pay attention to ring height. Play around until you can look through the scope without bobbing your head on the stock. You should be able to get into position with your eyes closed, open your eye and have perfect scope field of view.

Get out there and practise, practise, then practise a whole lot more. A well tuned Savage or Rem will shoot 3/4 to 1/2 MOA which is more then competitive. However, few drivers can keep up that level of accuracy over the course of a day.

Keep fit, well hydrated, and focused behind a good fitting rifle with a crisp light trigger and clear trustworthy optics. That alone is worth more then any techie bling you might want to add to your rifle.

Jerry
 
Thanks Mystic for the write up, and everyone else for their imput.

I have the rifle now, there are just TOO many damn choices, I think that's why this hobby is so addictive. For now I think I'm going to keep it simple. Nikon looks like the scope for me, and i like the .308. But over the last few weeks I pretty much decided that someday I'm going to build my own rig from the ground up. So this one is going to have the snot shot out of it for the next few years, along the way I'll figure out what works for me.

I really like the Surgeon action with the built in rail, and the tube gun that ONT0001 posted is very cool, I'd like to try a pistol grip someday. The 6mm BR looks to be the ticket too.

Quick question is the .243 a barrel burner, I've always really liked that cartridge, but the 6mm BR doesn't seem to give up much over it.
 
By the time you burn out this rifle, who knows what the hot ticket will be.

over the last 5 yrs we have gone from 30 and 338 dominance to tiny 6mm's cleaning the course.

As more bullets get designed and made, the choice will change. Don't think that the 22cal is out of the running. If someone figures out how to make 100gr 22cals with BC around 0.6-0.7, that just might be the winning combo.

All we know is that trigger time is never wasted and learning to read conditions will pay out more then any whiz bang gidget.

Good luck with your shooting and practise. Try and get some positive and helpful couching. Learn, study, make every shot count.

Jerry
 
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