Fabrique Nationale Shotgun What year? PICTURES ADDED
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Hmmm......Yup... That would be an old FN double barrel shot gun...
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Smart A$$! No surprise from you though!!
OK - here ya go.......
Left to right -
JBL - a senior inspector at Herstal
Choke - 17.4 over 18.2 degree of choke from 1910 to 1924
174 over 'balance' line 183 - see above
D = 70 over 20.6 = chamber dimensions for smokeless proof 1892 - 1924
Lion over PV - nitro proof
12 in a diamond - bore size for guns intended for foreign trade
Crown over A = inspector's mark
509.8 = weight of barrels in grams
The Perron - the little column stamp - from 1853 the proof of breeching
Crown over ELG over star = post 1883 = Liege proof mark stamp [Epreuve Liege]
To sum up, it's a Belgian-made good quality 12 gauge hammerless gun with two improved-choked barrels made not later than 1924.
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tac
Left to right -
JBL - a senior inspector at Herstal
Choke - 17.4 over 18.2 degree of choke from 1910 to 1924
174 over 'balance' line 183 - see above
D = 70 over 20.6 = chamber dimensions for smokeless proof 1892 - 1924
Lion over PV - nitro proof
12 in a diamond - bore size for guns intended for foreign trade
Crown over A = inspector's mark
509.8 = weight of barrels in grams
The Perron - the little column stamp - from 1853 the proof of breeching
Crown over ELG over star = post 1883 = Liege proof mark stamp [Epreuve Liege]
To sum up, it's a Belgian-made good quality 12 gauge hammerless gun with two improved-choked barrels made not later than 1924.
Next......
tac
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Wow! thanks for all the info! That is great.
So, to sum it up it is made from 1892 to 1924?
No idea which side of that date it would be on do you?
Also, would it be chambered in 2 3/4" or does it show that on any of the markings?
Thanks and if there is anything else please let me know!!
So, to sum it up it is made from 1892 to 1924?
No idea which side of that date it would be on do you?
Also, would it be chambered in 2 3/4" or does it show that on any of the markings?
Thanks and if there is anything else please let me know!!
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20 posts to show...Frabrique National ok, must be a Mossberg.
Can't go wrong for that price!
I dunno what were the length of the ones you already put through it? If they were 2 3/4" how did they fire?? What did the empty hulls look like??
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Not really sure what this means? Anyone?
count post 20 and look at the pic. God really hard.
Probably hard , have a look at post 15...Then compare pics and see if you can see any information that would identify the shotgun.
Not being an a$$ but i'm not 100% sure what you mean either. I have become very interested in older shotguns, especially doubles. Are you referencing a certain area that indicates exactly what this is and age etc?? What should one look for when IDing an old shotgun?
Sorry man i guess i'm just not entirely sure what it is your getting at with your posts. As i said I am new to this and probably missing something obvious, but if you could explain in more detail that would be great. As I said i'm a little new to this, and maybe a little slow anyway so feel free to dumb it down for me as much as you want!! Cheers
No desire to hurt your feelings but, Cammy7s, that old girl has seen better days. The "Bubba" job on the back of the receiver doesn't give one a warm, fuzzy feeling at all. When you shot it, did you find that the firing pin got stuck in the shell primer when opening the action? In the one image, you can see both firing pins extending well beyond the fence. This means both firing pin return springs are broken or worn out. With the Bubba job on the receiver, it's doubtful you can get in to replace them.
Most often this situation eventually results in pierced primers (sometimes with attendant high pressure gas leaks at the breech). It often allows the firing pin to get stuck in the shell primer after firing and this, in turn makes the action hard (or almost impossible) to open.
But it's the bailing wire and binder twine approach to securing the receiver and the badly damaged screw heads that concern me most. If that's what we can see from the outside, I shudder to think what's on the inside (besides the parts we know are pooched). I'm a huge fan of vintage shotguns and I buy them to shoot, not to look at. Still, I wouldn't shoot that particular gun, if I were you.
Most often this situation eventually results in pierced primers (sometimes with attendant high pressure gas leaks at the breech). It often allows the firing pin to get stuck in the shell primer after firing and this, in turn makes the action hard (or almost impossible) to open.
But it's the bailing wire and binder twine approach to securing the receiver and the badly damaged screw heads that concern me most. If that's what we can see from the outside, I shudder to think what's on the inside (besides the parts we know are pooched). I'm a huge fan of vintage shotguns and I buy them to shoot, not to look at. Still, I wouldn't shoot that particular gun, if I were you.
