Falcon FFP scopes

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so im looking at a Falcon Menace 4-14x44 FFP Metric Mildot

or the Falcon Menace 4.5-18x56 Metric Mildot

one is First Focal Plane .. which as far as i can tell, increases the size of the crosshair as you zoom ...

not by much, but still increases in size.. both are the same price.

which is better ?
and are there any advantages to FFP ?

edit: if you're wondering why metric .. because we use real measurements down here in NZ :p i kid i kid.. all the moa units are sold out
 
the 4-14 increases the reticle ALOT when you zoom with the FFP... I went Mil/Mil with the milled reticule.

I love mine, great scope for the money on my precision build.
 
The 18x is a varmint scope. The 14x more a tactical/all around scope. Both have light transmission at 94% which is very good. The Bushnell 4200, Burris etc are at 95%. So you're very close. The old ones that are often reviewed on the 18x scopes were at 92%. This is worth noting when reading older reviews.

Also they have a new 5-24x? ffp coming out. It's a one piece tube 30mm, with 50mm or 56mm objective.

The 4-14 FFP is a one tube scope. I personally think it's the better built one of the two. Also a 44mm objective is a nice compromise if you don't want the 56mm objective.

They're both good scopes. Get the ML-16 reticle though (Almost the same as the NF NP-R1).

The reticle does get bigger but it seems to be pretty good. Any bigger and it would be too big. I think they got the proportions/magnification right on that one.
 
The 18x is a varmint scope. The 14x more a tactical/all around scope. Both have light transmission at 94% which is very good. The Bushnell 4200, Burris etc are at 95%. So you're very close. The old ones that are often reviewed on the 18x scopes were at 92%. This is worth noting when reading older reviews.

Also they have a new 5-24x? ffp coming out. It's a one piece tube 30mm, with 50mm or 56mm objective.

The 4-14 FFP is a one tube scope. I personally think it's the better built one of the two. Also a 44mm objective is a nice compromise if you don't want the 56mm objective.

They're both good scopes. Get the ML-16 reticle though (Almost the same as the NF NP-R1).

The reticle does get bigger but it seems to be pretty good. Any bigger and it would be too big. I think they got the proportions/magnification right on that one.


do you know how thick the reticle is at 100 meter? falcon's website says it's 0.25mrad but at what magnification?
 
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The point of a ffp scope is that the mil dots are accurate regardless of magnification.
That's how the reticle size is "determined" by falcon.

I've got a 4-14 ffp.
Love it, great combination of features and optical quality at a very reasonable price point.
 
yes but the width of the reticle changes at different magnification i want to know if it;s going to be too thick at 25x or too thin at 5.5x with the new 5.5x25 FFP
 
The FFP is important if MilDots are important to you. If they aren't, the FFP has nothing to offer. A coarser reticle at higher power is not an advantage.
 
True enough, but for those looking at the ffp scopes, bear in mind that the crosshairs cover the exact same amount of target area regardless of magnification.

With the 4-14 on 4x, it can be hard to pick up the reticle in dark conditions in heavy bush. In brighter conditions, especially in open terrain, it's no problem.
On 14x I don't find the reticle too thick, it's roughly the same as every other scope I have.
The only place it might be considered a disadvantage is benchrest shooting at extremely long range.
Dunno about the 5.5-25x, but technically it's reticle should be exactly the same "thickness" as the 4-14, and therefore cover the exact same amount of target area.

The mil reticles are great for using as windage and elevation hold points. And with the ffp, your holds are always consistant. No screwing around trying to get the magnification exactly back to the point where the reticle is "calibrated".
 
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