FAMAE SAF Series Now in Stock!

Got my SAF-200 yesterday. Thanks to Tactical Imports for very speedy shipping, also your "discrete" packaging gave me a chuckle. A lot heavier than expected, much like a PE-90, they are heavy guns. Fit and finish is not as nice as a Swiss Arms but isn't bad. I noticed the top rail and the front rail system is slightly off, though when mounting items I did not encounter any problems. Did a basic take down of the carbine and I didn't notice any burrs and metal flakes at all. It looks solidly built, you can definalty blungeon someone with this and have no fear of it breaking.

Controls are a bit stiff, may need some breaking in. The adjustment button on the stock is a bit iffy, is difficult sometimes get the stock to collapse when it is completely extened. Cheek weld isn't all the confortable either since your pushing up against the metal adjustment button. I was also surpised to find that there is a hidden compartment in the integrated foregrip (I didn't see it mentioned anywhere) so its possible to stow a small cleaning kit/batteries and the like in it. Comes with a very basic cleaning kit, and a sling, no instructions were present in my package.

I am not sure how durable to magazines will be there is a bit of flex to them and they are completely polymer. I would have preferred something like a Glock Mag, with a metal frame and a polymer shell for added durability (I drop my Glock mags on concrete all the time, no issues)

Overal Impressions:

Built like a brick sh*t house - feels very durbale
Controls a bit stiff
Finish is good overall, some areas are a bit spotty (Minor IMHO), specifically on mine part of the top rail and the barrel tip.
Long Term Durability of Magazines - Time will tell, they are quite exspensive ($65 each)

Range report to follow.
 
cmac10 said:
I have the folding stock on mine. Still undecided whether or not to buy a fixed stock for it.
Here's a range pic from yesterday:
The gun just feels good to shoot.

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I have two of these and one of them with the full stock. I am in GP as well. Let me know and you are welcome to try it for comparison sake. I would like to try some of the new mags as well so it would work good for both of us.
 
T_A_N_K said:
Got my SAF-200 yesterday. Thanks to Tactical Imports for very speedy shipping, also your "discrete" packaging gave me a chuckle. A lot heavier than expected, much like a PE-90, they are heavy guns. Fit and finish is not as nice as a Swiss Arms but isn't bad. I noticed the top rail and the front rail system is slightly off, though when mounting items I did not encounter any problems. Did a basic take down of the carbine and I didn't notice any burrs and metal flakes at all. It looks solidly built, you can definalty blungeon someone with this and have no fear of it breaking.

Controls are a bit stiff, may need some breaking in. The adjustment button on the stock is a bit iffy, is difficult sometimes get the stock to collapse when it is completely extened. Cheek weld isn't all the confortable either since your pushing up against the metal adjustment button. I was also surpised to find that there is a hidden compartment in the integrated foregrip (I didn't see it mentioned anywhere) so its possible to stow a small cleaning kit/batteries and the like in it. Comes with a very basic cleaning kit, and a sling, no instructions were present in my package.

I am not sure how durable to magazines will be there is a bit of flex to them and they are completely polymer. I would have preferred something like a Glock Mag, with a metal frame and a polymer shell for added durability (I drop my Glock mags on concrete all the time, no issues)

Overal Impressions:

Built like a brick sh*t house - feels very durbale
Controls a bit stiff
Finish is good overall, some areas are a bit spotty (Minor IMHO), specifically on mine part of the top rail and the barrel tip.
Long Term Durability of Magazines - Time will tell, they are quite exspensive ($65 each)

Range report to follow.
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Hi there,

Where is your range report about this nice machine .... ?

Thanks
 
Sorry for the delay. There was an issue with my hand guard so I haven't had a lot of usage out of it, I have since worked out the issue with TI.

When initially deciding on getting one of these I debated between the MINI SAF w/ Rail or the SAF-200. I ended up choosing the SAF-200 for the following reasons:

- It was the same price as the Mini with a top rail
- I had other rail "options" for mounting accessories
- Stock was adjustable and foldable.
- Iron Sights

Usage:

When it comes to you from the factory it is bone dry, best to lube it up thoroughly as it works best wet. I have probably put maybe a few rounds through the unit, and have experienced no issues. I had one or two FTE but I believe it was because I added no additional lubrication and fired it as is. I haven't not had a issue since.

Recoil is almost non-existent, it is very manageable for smaller framed people. Although some of my female friends (100 pounds or so) find it a bit heavy to hold for more than a couple minutes.

You will have no problems hitting a man sized target shooting rapidly at 25 -50 yards. I haven't really tested it really much beyond that.

It is one of the longest triggers I have ever used straight from the factory(it is adjustable). Even new shooters said this as well compared to shooting my other firearms.

The over all feel of the unit is very solid, you can hear the nice "click" when going from safe to semi.

The SAF-200 has a storage compartment in the grip were you can stow a basic cleaning kit/other stuff like batteries which is really neat.

The overall workmanship I would say is good, although some spots leave a lot to be desired. On my top rail, there are some burr marks on the side of a minor section. The welds on the mating point to where the stock folds and connects to the receiver looks a bit sloppy. That being said, I showed it to my friend who use to be into firearms heavy back in the day and told him to check it out and what he thought, he felt it was nice and when I told it was made in Chile he was surprised. So that being said, considering where it was made compared to other more known manufacturers I think its pretty good.

Now for the issues I have noticed:

I dislike the the iron sights, I think they are almost useless. The way the rear sight flips up is annoying. If you wear a ballcap, the brim can easily knock it down. I would highly recommend getting a pair of BUIS.

I don't the idea of how the front sight is attached to the gun. It's actually not attached to it, but to the hand guard. (Think of having a rail that's been attached to the top of a AR-15 hand guard, and putting a sight on that rail).

Adjusting the collapsible stock is very annoying, sometimes it won't lock, sometimes it won't unlock. You also do not get very good grip from the stock to your shoulder. I would recommend taking a soldering iron to it or putting on some sort of rubber cover.

At $65 a magazine I wish they were constructed a bit better, it is completely a polymer magazine, but I feel it isn't as sturdy as something like a pmag. I would not want to accidentally step on one of these (although warranty covered for normal use).


With all that being said, I still think it is a well built firearm, but I think If I had to do it again, I would get the MINI SAF. I say this because all of the reasons I came up with for getting the SAF-200 over the Mini didn't work for me.
 
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T_A_N_K said:
Sorry for the delay. There was an issue with my hand guard so I haven't had a lot of usage out of it, I have since worked out the issue with TI.

When initially deciding on getting one of these I debated between the MINI SAF w/ Rail or the SAF-200. I ended up choosing the SAF-200 for the following reasons:

- It was the same price as the Mini with a top rail
- I had other rail "options" for mounting accessories
- Stock was adjustable and foldable.
- Iron Sights

Usage:

When it comes to you from the factory it is bone dry, best to lube it up thoroughly as it works best wet. I have probably put maybe a few rounds through the unit, and have experienced no issues. I had one or two FTE but I believe it was because I added no additional lubrication and fired it as is. I haven't not had a issue since.

Recoil is almost non-existent, it is very manageable for smaller framed people. Although some of my female friends (100 pounds or so) find it a bit heavy to hold for more than a couple minutes.

You will have no problems hitting a man sized target shooting rapidly at 25 -50 yards. I haven't really tested it really much beyond that.

It is one of the longest triggers I have ever used. Even new shooters said this as well compared to shooting my other firearms.

The over all feel of the unit is very solid, you can hear the nice "click" when going from safe to semi.

The overall workmanship I would say is good, although some spots leave a lot to be desired. On my top rail, there are some burr marks on the side of a minor section. The welds on the mating point to where the stock folds and connects to the receiver looks a bit sloppy. That being said, I showed it to my friend who use to be into firearms heavy back in the day and told him to check it out and what he thought, he felt it was nice and when I told it was made in Chile he was surprised. So that being said, considering where it was made compared to other more known manufacturers I think its pretty good.

Now for the issues I have noticed:

I dislike the the iron sights, I think they are almost useless. The way the rear sight flips up is annoying. If you wear a ballcap, the brim can easily knock it down. I would highly recommend getting a pair of BUIS.

I don't idea of how the front sight is attached to the gun. It's actually not attached to it, but to the hand guard. (Think of having a rail that's been attached to the top of a AR-15 hand guard, and putting a sight on that rail).

Adjusting the collapsible stock is very annoying, sometimes it won't lock, sometimes it won't unlock. You also do not get very good grip from the stock to your shoulder. I would recommend taking a soldering iron to it or putting on some sort of rubber cover.

At $65 a magazine I wish they were constructed a bit better, it is completely a polymer magazine, but I feel it isn't as sturdy as something like a pmag. I would not want to accidentally step on one of these.


With all that being said, I still think it is a well built firearm, but I think If I had to do it again, I would get the MINI SAF. I say this because all of the reasons I came up with for getting the SAF-200 over the Mini didn't work for me.
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FYI the trigger can be adjusted (simply adjust the nut that determines the position) so that second stage engages just before the break. It is set very far back at the factory. (just keep in mind any trigger adjustments are done at your own risk)

Also, spare mags are covered under warranty. Any breakages are covered.
 
Yes sorry I didn't mention that, it looks like the same design as the Swiss Arms but I never got around to adjusting it or felt comfortable doing it myself.

I didn't know the magazines were also covered under warranty, that is good to know.

The one thing I forgot about the SAF-200 was that there is a storage compartment in the grip were you can stow a basic cleaning kit/other stuff like batteries which is really neat. I am not sure if the other models have this capability. Is there one in the vertical grip of the Mini? It doesn't look like it does from the above picture.

I must reinforce that it feels like a really solid gun (probably why it feels heavier than it should, its like PE-90 heavy, if you have one, you know what I'm talking about), you're good to go if you need to bludgeon zombies with it if you ever run out of ammo.


TV-PressPass what rail are you using on the Mini? You can take it on and off?

Also has anyone tweaked with the trigger yet?
 
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the_klenzer said:
I know what you mean... Hard to go back to 5 rounders...
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I'm sorry if this question is stupid, but yes i am a firearms noob. Why is it only Canada has set regulations about magazine capacity's, yet no other country has them in UK, Australia, America, Switzerland, Italy you are able to use the full capacity of a box magazine.

My question is why are we subjected to this rule that doesn't make any sense.
 
Your information is incorrect. There are plenty of magazine restriction's in the US (New York State is 10 rounds for pistols for example). Firearms are even more restrictive in other commonwealth countries when compared to Canada.
 
Short range report ...

Went to the range today to try my Famae SAF ... let me tell you that it shoots very well and it's very precise, I have only shot 50 rounds threw it today at 25 meters. Was able to do a 2 inch group very easily.
Like mentioned by T A N K this rifle need to be lube to work flawlessly .... very easy to shoot, almost no recoil, no jam at all .... tomorrow I will put at least 200 / 300 rounds threw it and see how it goes.
It is true that the trigger pull is a bit long but I will work on that later.
Very happy with my new toy .....

Gunner
 
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