Farm deer are different?

BIGREDD said:
Are you saying that hunting agriculture whitetails in Ontario is easy?... that it is just shooting and not hunting...:confused:

I'm picturing you on your riding lawn mower with the .50 mounted and you running the edges of your plots hoping for something to pop out.;)

Whitetails no matter where you hunt are the best distributor of humble pie I can think of.

Those sob's can make the most experienced hunter scratch his head.

Rarely if ever heard of anyone just shooting whitetails. Need to do some homework as a rule in all the provinces I've hunted.
 
we have found that although there is no set pattern there tends to be paths which are used more heavily than others from the cedars/creek bottoms to get into the fields. we usually hedge our bets at places such as where fence rows meet bush lots. it usually pays off for us, if we see sign at these "intersections" it is usually a well used trail. . With any luck at all you can usually find a half decent tree for a stand at these spots. these are just our experiences...and they have worked fairly well.
 
Mumptia said:
I'm picturing you on your riding lawn mower with the .50 mounted and you running the edges of your plots hoping for something to pop out.;)

Whitetails no matter where you hunt are the best distributor of humble pie I can think of.

Those sob's can make the most experienced hunter scratch his head.

Rarely if ever heard of anyone just shooting whitetails. Need to do some homework as a rule in all the provinces I've hunted.
I am not a mule deer expert that is for sure, I have never shot one.
Frankly I am amazed at the stories I hear about shooting any deer like fish in a barrel.
I have witnessed stupid whitetails on a few occasions... deer that were not educated and could be shot easily. But this never lasts and all it takes is one or two shooting sessions and the darwin deer are eliminated. The rest of the adult deer graduate to "hunter smart 102" immediately!
I have a buddy that got permission to hunt a huge property that was filled with deer and had never been hunted. He shot three big bucks the first season...one of those was a 140 class... he thought he was Captain Deadly for sure... the second year he managed to get a small buck mostly by luck. He says the deer have gone nocturnal... this is the standard answer for hunters who don't understand that the deer are smarter than they are.:rolleyes:
We are relatively successful at hunting educated whitetails that are pressured hard during the fall. This is accomplished partly by using proven long term game management practices and by the application of extreme and radical hunting techiniques.;)
 
Today I intend to try an educated guess. I'm hunting mid - day Evening and morning hunts have been a waste of time, but the tracks show the deer are there. So, I take today and try a high noon hunt.
The cold may be keeping the deer at rest a bit longer, and they are not at all pressured, as there just are NO other hunters about. We'll see.
 
A farmland whitetail which as hit the wall hanger stage is a very difficult animal to bag. I has been conditiond to avoid human contact and is a master at sneaking around humans, they simply melt into the landscape. The very best opportunity to bag one of these increadible animals is the first day of the season and one you had better done your homework as far as patterning it bcause if the slightest thing seems out of place that buck goes nocturnal.

A mature mule deer on the other hand I think is a bit different. They are more curious than a whitetail. I passed on a fairly decent four point early in the season which did not see me until it was thirty yards or so away. It bolted a short ways and went back to feeding. It has been my experience that a whitetail buck of the same size would have been long gone.
 
we have found that deer seem to understand when turkeys are alerted to danger and also that turkeys are alerted by deer alarm grunts...if the birds were acting warily it may have tipped the deer off...
 
I hunt on my GF's land. There they grow, hay( alphalpha and clover), corn carrots and soya beans.

It's more complicated than hunting in deep woods to folow their paterns as they change very quickly during harvest season.........
 
Actually Deer and Turkeys seem to have a symbiotic relationship... I wish we could use turkey decoys during the deer hunt. I have seen them using the same fields and in very close proximity many times.
 
farm country deer is all i have ever shot. the deer are going to know the lay of the land way better than you think you can. they use little fold and washs to move through open terrain. the hardest deer to hunt here are the really open country whitetails. the bed down in the middle of a flat open section of land and can see you, hear you and smell you before you can get close.

try baiting if you can do that in ontario. it will bring the does in and the bucks will come in checking does but in the late season they are thinking more about their belly.
 
Maybe you need to try the ol' plains injun trick, sneaking up on them in the open, under a buffalo hide...:) Or the modern equivalent, a big piece of camo cloth, a la superman cape... Seriously, a field hide, like goose shooters use, might work if the field layout lends to it.
 
I noticed also that in the corn fields that I hunt that there is very little pattern to the deer movement, however when I backtracked several tracks I found most of them converge about 50yds inside the tree line. When I set my tree stand in there this fall I saw 13 deer in 4 days! all between 8am and 4pm. I think they stage here and all the tracks in the field are made after dark. My advise, try to find these trails inside the bush and sit tight. Both deer I took this year with the Bow just appeared out of nowhere, but both on this trail. I don't know, might just be a fluke, but thats where I am hunting next season also....
 
John Y Cannuck said:
Well now I'm stuck, or I might be. The entrance to the field has a nice big drift in it 3 ft deep at a guess. I guess I'll have to do some serious shovelling.
Are you driving into the field and parking close to where your hunting J/C?
 
BIGREDD said:
Are you driving into the field and parking close to where your hunting J/C?
You're kidding right? :eek:
I trudge through a considerable amount of snow to get where I'm going. I drive only far enough into the field to get off the road, and be a bit concealed, so I don't get bugged by passers by.
 
Not kidding at all.:eek: .. sometimes we park a half a mile down the road... or get someone to drop us off and we walk a huge circle into our stands. Approach is everything when hunting educated deer.;)
 
The walk to the stand, is about 800 yards, probably more.
I parked on the road this morning, as there was little traffic, and spent a few hours calling. The deer seem to be coming down a trail closer to my stand now, maybe it's the scent I've been using. Saw nothing.
Came back out to the jeep, and :mad: there are a half dozen fresh tracks, crossing the road, so close to the back of the vehicle, they may have brushed it on the way by.
Such is hunting. :)
A few days left.:)
 
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