For farm defense, I recommend nothing less than a 105mm howitzer. A rabid farm won't be stopped by any small arms.
Farm Defense Gun
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For farm defense, I recommend nothing less than a 105mm howitzer. A rabid farm won't be stopped by any small arms.
My 50bmg won't work on em... tough little buggers
onetwentyish
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This. Specifically the part about zero exceptions for farmers. That was some bad info.
this is what I've always understood to be true, and do practice it on a regular ongoing bases.
I recently inherited one of those guns and I have to point out that both of you have omitted an almost universal and important detail, specifically the black hockey tape wrapped around the barrel and the foreend to hold it in place. And the fact that the hard rubber butt piece dried out around 1930, broke in 1938, and is half missing. Mine is also missing the firing pin, but I expect that is peculiar to mine alone. My father used to claim he knew what pond it's in. And if yours have the bead sight still in place and not just a little empty hole where it used to be, well you're darned lucky that's all I can say.
My uncle uses a Rem 788 .243. It was kept in close reach in the house in case a coyote or anything really was trying to get in the barn. Nail ground hogs 300 yards away and make them do tricks, Or put down a cow or horse.
It also does not strictly specify "predators" but "predators or other animals". A gopher could be an "other" animal, but it's not immediately dangerous at all......unless you trip in a gopher hole and fall down and happen to get bit by one.
Also, some of the firearms safety courses don't inform people properly. The RCMP site seems to think that all non-restricteds need to be locked at all times (or I'm blind and didn't see the exceptions as stated in the FA) and I recently got into an argument over this with one of my brothers who had recently taken the safety course. He was insisting that every last one of my guns needs to be locked up at all times unless I'm using them, I told him he was misinformed but he wouldn't believe me because the course told him otherwise of what the FA states.
All that being said......I think the layout of a person's yard helps determine the best choice, obviously I don't want to be blasting off a 30-30 with buildings in the background, but maybe the 12 gauge with bird shot won't harm anything. If buildings aren't the issue, and in the area I live, my 17HMR is actually my "go-to" for pests and such. Not overly loud, but decent range and damn fine accuracy.
Well, you were correct in that there is no exception specifically for farmers. The same exceptions in the FA apply equally to anyone who meets the conditions.
Except for those terms specifically defined in the law itself, the law is intentionally written to be non-definitive so that interpretations can be weighed against a variety of real life circumstances.
For instance, in one legal case a pharmacist kept a loaded firearm in the corner at the back of his store. After an incident where he used the firearm in defense during a robbery, he was charged in relation to his 'improper' storage, and successfully defeated the charges. His defense was built around the idea that because the firearm was 'in use' for self defense, it wasn't in storage at all. If it wasn't in storage, then it couldn't be improperly stored. So sometimes non-definitive laws also work in a person's favor. R. vs Bowskill.
From the NFA site...
Presumably, if you were out in the country where you could fire the gun, and kept a loaded firearm for predator defense, you could use the same defense, despite the fact that the storage regulations specifically state the firearm must be unloaded.
I hope it'll work for the numbers of farmers I know or have heard of that keep a loaded firearm handy. When you're already working in one of the world's most dangerous professions, the hazard of a loaded shotgun hidden in the doorway of the barn may not seem as serious as some would have it.
Crazy Chaingun
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Actually, now that I think about it, a flashlight attachment would be a fantastic addition to a farm gun.
Much better than trying to fumble around at night with a light in one hand and a gun in the other.
pisces-guy
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12 gauge with 00 buckshot!
JACKSMYDOG
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My paintball gun has been effective at scaring a few small pests away with no return. Haven't actually hit any of them, just send a burst of shots close and watch them run.
Has anyone considered a pistol caliber carbine on nuisance predators/pests?
Has anyone considered a pistol caliber carbine on nuisance predators/pests?
Yes friend on mine uses one, just about perfect... has a flashlight attached, keeps mag close. .. only single issue is that its a semi.... have to watch shooting around hay or in dry barns. Plus picking up brass in thick spots is a pain
Thats what i keep handy. when the sun starts to set, i take the trigger lock off the 12g. before i got to work in the AM, the trigger lock goes back on. i figured thats about the best way to prevent a charge. I'm positive that if required i could defend a charge of unsafe storage this way. Although im not a lawyer
