Fastest hunting rifle to load for one shot.

BCWILL said:
A Pump shottie would be Hands down the Fastest of the Bunch...
Huge loading gate to drop a shell into and slam the pump closed while bringing it up and BOOM.........
When I competed we were limited to 2 rounds at a time in the Old Pumps to make things fair for the Doubles.........
At my best with the Shotgun (Winchester Model 97) staged on a table action open & empty...I could at the beep get off 4 aimed shots at about 5 seconds, single loading shells ;)

And I was Far from One of the Best :)

For the Action open drop one in scenario.......tough to Beat a Pump Shottie.

But then Who Cares.........Nobody Road Hunts here anyways :D
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Well if we are going to get in to Shotguns... then hands down the Browning Gold Semi Auto. It has a "speed loading" feature, with the bolt open, slide a shell in the mag and the bolt automatically closes.
It is very fast, and very handy in the duck/goose/crow blind when there are only 3 shells in the mag.
 
it hurts for me to do this but i have to agree with catnthehat.
that big ramp on the martini and no exposed hammer to #### makes it a winner in my mind.
anything scoped would be slower, and most #1s have scopes on them.
my b78 is a pain to load because of the scope.
my guns are always unloaded in the vehicle , that being the law.
the scenario suggested here has actually happened to me, but i was on a road, beside my car, with an unloaded gun as i watched the whitetail wave at me and dissappear into the bush like smoke.
oh well!
 
Gatehouse said:
That is what I woudl do..It's pretty damn fast to drop a cartridge in the action and close the bolt.:dancingbanana:
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It's not that simple....

I've been told that some CRF bolt rifles can have the claw damaged if the shell is not picked up from the magazine and just pushed ahead of the claw?

If the bolt action rifle has a detachable magazine then it will just fall out the bottom and if you turn it on it's side the cartridge may not line up with the chamber.

If you own an A-Bolt, the shell sits too low to just slide into the chamber like I mentioned earlier.
 
IMHO they are all about the same, and will come down to what one has practiced with the most.

I know I can drop a shell into my Pump action Maverick 88s chamber, close the action, and be on point pretty darn quick.
Same goes with my 94 Winchester.

Personally unless a self defence issue I still wouldn't take the shot, as I may have missed out on key detail...such as species recognition, or backdrop safety.
 
bill c68 said:
Well if we are going to get in to Shotguns... then hands down the Browning Gold Semi Auto. It has a "speed loading" feature, with the bolt open, slide a shell in the mag and the bolt automatically closes.
It is very fast, and very handy in the duck/goose/crow blind when there are only 3 shells in the mag.
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The fastest to load is the famous Browning Double auto!
There is absolutely no faster shotgun.
Slam the shell into the left side port and it's done, that simple....
Cat
 
BIGREDD said:
Maybe if you could spell "Intelligent" I would agree with you...:p
Just hacking on ya wet toaster...;)
I agree with you for sure... no bull about road hunting... no trolls slamming other guys choice in guns... just solid advice and well thought opinions... very refreshing:)
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Too funny!:p Thanks for the praise I'll add you to my fan club.;)
 
catnthehatt said:
The fastest to load is the famous Browning Double auto!
There is absolutely no faster shotgun.
Slam the shell into the left side port and it's done, that simple....
Cat
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Wrong.

Browning 2000
 
It's not that simple...
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It's simple for me...I simply stated what *I* woudl do!:)

I've been told that some CRF bolt rifles can have the claw damaged if the shell is not picked up from the magazine and just pushed ahead of the claw?[/QUOTE]

Winchesters and Rugers will pop over the shell, and you can just close the action. Some CRF guns won't but it's an easy modification for a gunsmith, and I would get it done before hunting wiht it.


If the bolt action rifle has a detachable magazine then it will just fall out the bottom and if you turn it on it's side the cartridge may not line up with the chamber.
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One of the reasons I don't like detach mags, and dont' hunt with them is that without the mag, it becomes a awkward single shot.

If you own an A-Bolt, the shell sits too low to just slide into the chamber like I mentioned earlier
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I've never tried it wiht an ABolt that I can rememeber, but it just adds one more to the list of things I don't liek about A Bolts.:)
 
For those who said a Browning A bolt Sask, has declared that a gun may not have cartridges in the mag if it is attached to the gun. This law appears to have been implemented esp for the Browning boys.


I have in the past used both an H&R and a Browning B78. With practice it is possible to load the H&R very quickly. I also use a break action shotgun so the motions are very similar. Even a scoped B 78 can be loaded without looking and although ot exactly on topic they can be very fast for follow up shots if the cartridges are kept in a wrist or stock holder. The motion is simialr to an underhand then overhand circle of the reloading hand. It is not necessary to lower the gun from the shoulder. Drop the lever to eject and continue back picking up a new round. Feed it onto the ramp and close the bolt. The hammer is operated by the lever so no time wasted there.
 
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catnthehatt said:
You are wrong! Okay, we're both right!Cat
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No, you're wrong Cat.

I got five shots before I have to do the fast load thing. How many do you have again? I win.

Of course, I never miss anything that leaks blood or sheds feathers, so unless there are more than five chukar, the question is moot anyways.

I didn't pay attention to the beginning of this thread. Why is speed of reloading so important anyways - are we going to be facing a Turkey Charge?

The 2000 is a gas job, ain't it?
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Yup. And I have nightmares that I will break a part someday and not be able to find a replacement. Have shot the bejesus out of it since I bought it in '74, and it seems to just keep plugging along even when I am guilty of not cleaning it for silly amounts of time. I keep muttering to myself about them Briley thin wall chokes, but there always seems to be some other firearm that I need to buy first.

Both load the same IIRC
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Yup. And the little bolt release catch on the bottom also loads the odd thumb when you have a senior's moment and aren't paying attention.

Really a beautiful gun, reasonably lightweight, and handle very, very nicely. A good score for anyone who finds one in good condition.
 
I thoughht he was talking about the FIRST shot, Rick!

I love thhe Double auto, beautiful shotgun.
Val Browning swore you could get the third shoot off while the ducks were still in the air, and I have have tried it on a skeet range.
YUP!!:eek: :D
Just a matter of slammin't the third shell withh the left hand....
Cat
 
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I thoughht he was talking about the FIRST shot, Rick!
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Okay... went and read the first post. I think "how fast" would have more to do with where the rounds are on your person than the firearm itself. I can drop a round just as easily into the breech of my Model 95 as I can into the breech of one of my Sako or Husqvarna bolt guns. Yeah, they don't chamber the round like an autoloader slamming one home, but by the time you get the rifle to your shoulder, the breech will be closed.

I'd lose this contest as my rounds would be in the pocket of my shirt with the pockets done up if I'd just been in the vehicle. I'm a pretty lousy road hunter as I don't spend much time at it. Although, seeing as how my brother and assorted friends shot their moose, or elk, or really big whitetail from the road this year, perhaps I should rethink my approach.

I love thhe Double auto, beautiful shotgun.
Val Browning swore you could get the third shoot off while the ducks were still in the air, and I have have tried it on a skeet range.
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Haven't seen one of the Doubles or the Twelvettes in a long time, not even at a gun show. Not very hard getting off an extra shot or two if you're carrying a couple of extra rounds in your left hand.

My brother is a lefty and he is pretty damned handy feeding rounds into his 870 after the first three are gone. Hell of an offhand shot but not much of a wing shot: as he calls it "Conservation through incompetence". So... he compensates by shooting LOTS when after ducks. He feeds shells into that pump so fast that we have had our shotguns checked numerous times by CO's who were sure we had an unplugged shotgun. He fell in love with an old pogo stick that an old local fella we used to see every year while hunting down at the mud flats willed to him, and he seems to do a little better with that one.
Just a matter of slammin' the third shell withh the left hand....
 
It's simple for me...I simply stated what *I* woudl do!
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My point is that John C's solution that you quoted don't work for everyone's bolt rifles. I've had to suffer with The A-Bolt issue myself and the topic starter says "Mag out of reach".

There's 2 strikes against the A-Bolt.:D
 
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