Fathers Day 06

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Me,my youngest son,another CGNer and his youngest son went to the
local range for the afternoon and BURNT SOME POWDER!
Anybody else get out with the kids?
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[/IMG] (.50cal 80g3f,pan heaped 4f, into strong headwind)
Regards,Jed.
 
Sticking up for Traditions......again

Huntsman said:
Not to hi-jack,but 3Beavers,what is your general impression with the Traditions Hawken,'cause I was think'n on the caplock.
Thanks
:p I would say as an entry level rifle it's fine.I have only ever shot patched ball and black powder out of it, though.It has been reliable. Comes apart easy for cleaning.Adjustable sights work good.It is accurate at the short ranges I tend to shoot.
I'm looking for another rifle now,but only to be period correct for the war of 1812.The hawken can stay as a loaner for people to try.
Regards,Jed.

(Maybe this one wasn't made late Friday afternoon;) )
 
3Beavers said:
:p I would say as an entry level rifle it's fine.I have only ever shot patched ball and black powder out of it, though.It has been reliable. Comes apart easy for cleaning.Adjustable sights work good.It is accurate at the short ranges I tend to shoot.
I'm looking for another rifle now,but only to be period correct for the war of 1812.The hawken can stay as a loaner for people to try.
Regards,Jed.

(Maybe this one wasn't made late Friday afternoon;) )

I'll be shooting patched rounball thru primarily as well as Triple 7 FFG.
I do shoot a Pedersoli .50cal Frontier,best groups have been with 80grs 777
patch lubed w/TC Bore Butter and a 167gr cast rnd ball at 50yds.
Cheers and thanks for yor reply & opinion,
 
Huntsman said:
I'll be shooting patched rounball thru primarily as well as Triple 7 FFG.
I do shoot a Pedersoli .50cal Frontier,best groups have been with 80grs 777
patch lubed w/TC Bore Butter and a 167gr cast rnd ball at 50yds.
Cheers and thanks for yor reply & opinion,

The Pedersoli Frontier is a far superior gun to anything Traditions makes - I think you would be disappointed. If you want an inexpensive caplock in the hawken-style, look for a Lyman trade rifle - or if you want truely historically accurate, pay more and get the Great Plains or build one from a quality kit.

FWIW, real Hawkens were made with IRON furnishings, not brass. Brass looks better and sells more guns today, so many makers use it but the Great Plains is mroe representative of a period piece. If you want it even more accurately made, you could draw file the barrel to remove the ugly modern markings and brown all the metal to look like browned iron instead of blued steel.

Traditions, on the other hand, does NOT proof their guns for anything other than the lowest pressure loads out there. MANY have blown up in the US in recent years when users try to fire conicals or use BP substitutes or pellets in them - do a google for "traditions black powder problems" and you'll be flooded with negative feedback.

If you have to go cheap, get a used Lyman or Thompson Center of the EE here on CGN. Maybe some Traditions guns are OK, but the odds are definitely not as much in your favor as with other brands IMHO.
 
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Thanks Caven2,I will definately take your comments into consideration when I choose my "Hawken".I will more than likely go T/C,I fired my brothers(Gilly) T/C Hawken in .54...........very nice!!!!
As well,since I also shoot a T/C Encore,I'll stick to quality I know!
Cheers,
 
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