favorite ballistic app

kombayotch said:
The solver is one of the most misused features of these apps. It's a great feature, but I've seen people use it to "true their BC" when their turrets said 1 CLICK = 1/4" at 100y and they had the app set to MOA.

People often bugger up the environmental settings because they don't know the difference between absolute and relative pressure. One of the best features of AB mobile is that it can use density altitude as its enviromental input insteat of T,P & RH.

They also use a MV that was recorded at a much different temperature, and fail to account for the change in MV when the temperature changed. Or they use an MV they recorded when the barrel was new, before it sped up after break-in or before it started to slow down due to wear. Or they use data from a different lot of components.

People input sloppy/inaccurate data and then expect an accurate answer. When they don't get it, they start up about "theoretical" vs. "real life".
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Absolutely, there are no shortcuts!
 
kombayotch said:
The solver is one of the most misused features of these apps. It's a great feature, but I've seen people use it to "true their BC" when their turrets said 1 CLICK = 1/4" at 100y and they had the app set to MOA.

People often bugger up the environmental settings because they don't know the difference between absolute and relative pressure. One of the best features of AB mobile is that it can use density altitude as its enviromental input insteat of T,P & RH.

They also use a MV that was recorded at a much different temperature, and fail to account for the change in MV when the temperature changed. Or they use an MV they recorded when the barrel was new, before it sped up after break-in or before it started to slow down due to wear. Or they use data from a different lot of components.

People input sloppy/inaccurate data and then expect an accurate answer. When they don't get it, they start up about "theoretical" vs. "real life".
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thanks for the info. im new to this longer distance game.
 
arcticcathonda said:
Strelok, Shooter, and Applied Ballistics are all available. Start with Strelok since it is free and see how it works for you. If you find it falls short, AB was well worth the money in my opinion. I also like to support a team of guys that do so much work publishing scientific data to the community.
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Thats exactly why I support Bryan Litz.

I have 3 out of 4 of his books, his movie and use his ballistic calc.
 
I use shooter. The furthest I've used it to was 600ish yards, and it got me on an 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper at that distance, with a rifle that had only been previously shot to 300, so I was quite pleased with the result.
 
+1 for Ballistic AE on iPhone, really like the HUD although previous versions were nicer.

Since moved to Android and I am preferring AB over the others I have tried so far. Very professional set of features puts me bang on targets but I do miss having the HUD from B-AE
-only negative is now I feel that I NEED a Kestrel 4500... lol
 
dusticles said:
+1 for Ballistic AE on iPhone, really like the HUD although previous versions were nicer.

Since moved to Android and I am preferring AB over the others I have tried so far. Very professional set of features puts me bang on targets but I do miss having the HUD from B-AE
-only negative is now I feel that I NEED a Kestrel 4500... lol
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Hahahaha, yeah. thats what happened to me! I settled for a 4000 though and spent the difference on bullets!
 
Can somebody kind of explain to me quickly how an app like applied ballistics work? I know the cheap ballistic apps you'd choose your caliber and bullets and stuff like that and it was supposed to work off that. My rifle isn't a common caliber, it's a Lazz 7.82 warbird, so I highly doubt if there'd be an option to choose caliber that it would be on there. Do I just need to know all the info about my bullet load to enter into the app? Sorry if this is a dumb question but these ballistic apps have always intrigued me if I could find one that worked.
 
Stanley91 said:
Can somebody kind of explain to me quickly how an app like applied ballistics work? I know the cheap ballistic apps you'd choose your caliber and bullets and stuff like that and it was supposed to work off that. My rifle isn't a common caliber, it's a Lazz 7.82 warbird, so I highly doubt if there'd be an option to choose caliber that it would be on there. Do I just need to know all the info about my bullet load to enter into the app? Sorry if this is a dumb question but these ballistic apps have always intrigued me if I could find one that worked.
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Any good ballistic program won't ask you the caliber your shooting because it doesnt matter.

It will ask what bullet your shooting and the velocity your shooting it at. And a bunch of other info about the rifle and weather.
 
Stanley91 said:
Can somebody kind of explain to me quickly how an app like applied ballistics work? I know the cheap ballistic apps you'd choose your caliber and bullets and stuff like that and it was supposed to work off that. My rifle isn't a common caliber, it's a Lazz 7.82 warbird, so I highly doubt if there'd be an option to choose caliber that it would be on there. Do I just need to know all the info about my bullet load to enter into the app? Sorry if this is a dumb question but these ballistic apps have always intrigued me if I could find one that worked.
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You can have a look at the video in the App store for it, it explains your predicament fairly well.

But to give you an answer. There is an extensive library of bullets that you can choose from. If your particular bullet is not found in said library, then yes, you can enter all the data required for your bullet. Furthermore, Applied Ballistics even has a program integrated to calculate an unknown bullets ballistic's coefficient. However, that function requires that you take actual shots from various ranges and enter the drop that you experience. And the farther the range you can get a measurement for, the more precise the calculated ballistics coefficient.

All in all, if you have an unknown bullet, or even a self made bullet... Applied Ballistics would be the calculator for you over the others.
 
I started with Isnipe, but after downloading AB mobile I am liking it quite a bit. Not a dedicated precision shooter at this point, just appreciate an attractive option...
 
Stanley91 said:
Can somebody kind of explain to me quickly how an app like applied ballistics work? I know the cheap ballistic apps you'd choose your caliber and bullets and stuff like that and it was supposed to work off that. My rifle isn't a common caliber, it's a Lazz 7.82 warbird, so I highly doubt if there'd be an option to choose caliber that it would be on there. Do I just need to know all the info about my bullet load to enter into the app? Sorry if this is a dumb question but these ballistic apps have always intrigued me if I could find one that worked.
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K0na_stinky said:
Any good ballistic program won't ask you the caliber your shooting because it doesnt matter.

It will ask what bullet your shooting and the velocity your shooting it at. And a bunch of other info about the rifle and weather.
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This is your answer. If I recall correctly the Lazzeroni line measures the diameter of the barrel differently, but uses common bullets. Your bullet type, diameter, length etc are what is important. Add your muzzle velocity for the calculator to work, or like others have posted, shoot various distances and measure drop differences, thereby calculating your muzzle velocity. Sounds like you have a lot to learn.
 
7.82 Lazzeroni is a 308 diameter bullet. The bigger number(7.82 groove diameter) is for manhood extension purposes... Probably a bit of a throat erosion problem considering the velocities involved.
 
emerson said:
7.82 Lazzeroni is a 308 diameter bullet. The bigger number(7.82 groove diameter) is for manhood extension purposes... Probably a bit of a throat erosion problem considering the velocities involved.
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Yeah it's .308 diameter, I thought I put that in my post but I guess I typed 7.82. I had velocity numbers from my dads warbird with 180gr accubonds but don't remember what they were. His is a different make and barrel twist than mine. Bullets i loaded for right now are 165gr swift sciroccos. I'll have to shoot them through the Chrony and then I'll have the info I need. I just want to be able to use something like the ballistic app for hunting the prairies. Thanks guys
 
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