There's no need to make shooting complicated - it's not.
favorite YouTube shooting teacher?
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There's no need to make shooting complicated - it's not.
Can sure see where a newbie could get led astray in You Tube. There are things you can pickup from a hundred channels and maybe only 1 or 2 vids are actually any good. Trouble is knowing enough to know what is good and what is wrong. Plenty of good info out there, just some of them miss a detail here and there, or don't explain it thoroughly in some cases, in some vids. Sometimes have to watch 2-3 or 10-12 different vids to get to what you want to know about, but, the process can be very educational. Erik Cortina, F Class John, Winning in the Wind, Ryan Cleckner, Applied Ballistics, have put out some really good stuff. 6.5 Guys, Mark & Sam, Sniper's Hide, Satterlee have made some good ones. Guys like Johnny's Reloading Bench and Bolt Action Reloading are a couple of guys that have progressed a lot from their early days, and covered a lot of reloading stuff, and showed their mistakes and corrections. I really like the way Panhandle Precision presents stuff. Then there is Gavin Toobe at Ultimate Reloader, who I am somewhat not enamored with lately, but has done some really good stuff. THere are a lot of one of vids there too, folk that made one or two really good vids and seem to have quit the format. And You Tube is not the only place to look. Lots of stuff on Patreon, and there is one newer one I just found out about, similar to Patreon, which I haven't had a chance to explore yet, seems some YT people are using it for reloading/shooting stuff as well, called Curiosity Stream/ Nebula.
His obsession with internal ballistics for one, while it is a factor to be considered the monkey with their booger picker on the bang switch is of far greater concern and impact to the results on target.
Or people recognize that there are much better and more relevant instructors in the game then Rex.
If you don't think shooting is complicated, it's because you don't fully understand the subject.
If I were to show you a rock you'd say so what its a rock. If I showed the same rock to Neil DeGrasse he could trace the elements back to the big bang and the development of our solar system.
Shooting is very much the same way and Youtubers have a challenge that the audience is much like yourself, they want a short simple answer to what is probably a far more complicated subject. Most of the audience could not comprehend the facts even if the youtuber knew about it and tried to explain it. For this reason few people ever try.
You yourself have made many suggestions that illustrate how much you don't understand, and you don't even see what you missed. An example comes to mind when you degrade the value of 223 for PRS but advocate for 22BR instead. What you obviously don't understand is the subtleties of chambering reamer design as the characteristics of the neck and throat of a 22BR can be applied to the 223. Once that is done, the only difference is increased bolt thrust, about 50 feet per second and more recoil with the 22BR.
Oh and reamer manufacturing tolerances, barrel chambering techniques that result in over diameter free bore... OMG... people will get lost long before they understand this is all critical to the end result. And how Erik Cortina has such a tight diameter free bore that it does not matter how much jump or runout the has... not that anyone reading this post even knows what diameter free bore they have and what works for Erik wont work for your sloppy throat. Then we can get into how Sierra bullets are smaller in diameter compared to Berger and how that throat diameter can only be idealized for one or the other and not both.
And when Erik tells us all to FL resize every time, he doesn't mention that his reamer is made to match his sizing die, or that his sizing die was made to match his reamer.... He conveniently leaves that part out as guys try to take his "simple" advice and try to win the F Class nationals with a factory chamber and store bought dies.
Try explaining this difference in a YouTube video. You'll get 200 views in 6 months, but Frank can drone on about what part of your finger should contact the trigger and mystify such a minor point while dummies watch such irrelevance with fascination. Why.... because its simple.
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Okay.
First of all, I have never proclaimed to be the next great messiah.. Those are your words, not mine.
Second, As a Canadian YouTuber it is particularly difficult to become financially motivated to put out high quality YouTube videos. In the USA, there are plenty of companies that will send you gear to review, that is not the case in this country. But that is nothing compared to the shadow banning that YouTube put in place since Trump got elected. YouTube bans gun channels without any good reason besides the fact that its a gun channel. YouTube openly prohibits the discussion of points that are critical knowledge to a competition shooter and they are all too eager to shut our channels down without any good reason. I have had strikes against me that are so ambiguous that they serve only a single purpose... but to build enough strikes to lead to an account ban because its a gun channel.
So, with this in mind, how financially motivated do you think I am to spend the time it takes to produce a high quality video knowing that its just a matter of time before the liar-beral attack on free speech shuts down my channel as it has to so many others? But ya... screw em... I'll try and discuss some of this stuff out of defiance and a sense of good will toward interested shooters but I will not post videos very often as there is just no payoff.
Sarcastic comments like yours don't help motivate me either.
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Not exactly a long ranger and rather more of a self defence channel. Regardless, quite enjoyable watching his experiments like shot penetration through household materials, meat targets, and firing from under blankets to name a few.
never ever enough shooting time ...best advice in the thread.
the training done in the 70s can still bring good shooting skills even not up dated to the last new technology ...
There's also a lot better and more advanced/relevant trainers out there too, and they aren't hard to seek out...
So, Youtube can be useful to a degree, once the wheat is sorted form the chaff as other have pointed out. Believe it can also be more or less useful depending where you are in the journey. At the begining when you don't know what you don't know it can be tough. Shooting local competitions is a great way to start seeing what works and what does not. Most experienced shooters at least in NS are more than willing to help you out with gear choices and techniques. They have already made many of the mistakes that newer folks to the respective discipline are about to make.
Competition is the cheapest and most effective way to put your skills to practice, finding out what does and doesn't work.
Interesting, but I'm not sure competition is a good place to learn. That's trial by fire. Practice F Class events through the provincial rifle associations are what I would recommend, if they ever start running again.
Shooting steel can be difficult to progress in competition because its so difficult to accurately to plot your shots. When we miss, we often don't know why. That's where F Class is nice because every shot is plotted. You can really hone things there because of the quality feed back.
But hey, any excuse to get out there and get at it is an opportunity to learn. If you can do it with a bunch of guys, you can learn a whole lot faster than on your own.
Competition is the best and most effective way to verify your training.
Nothing replaces actual hands on professional training, I think that's the best money you can spend in this sport.
And this stands for F-class, PRS, or any other discipline you plan to shoot in.
