FBI Chooses New Pistol

I'm a righty but love the addition of the ambi slide catch. I want this gun, and a 19m as well
 
Would it be accurate to say they "stroked" the Glock? That is, added more slide stroke travel by moving the recoil spring point back on the barrel?
 
Deckard said:
Now with tacticool shooting it's in vogue to switch hands.
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It's been tacticool to train law enforcement to shoot a handgun with either hand since possibly before you were born. Here in Canada, the RCMP has had right and left hand shooting as part of the training syllabus since at least the 60's - when they actually started doing it, I have no idea.

Born out of the realization that the nearest cover available may not be friendly for the cop in question's preferred strong side. Much smarter to simply switch hands than to step out from behind cover to bring the sights to bear.
 
IMO the weak side shooting is a great idea in theory, but unrealistic for actual fighting for most as few actually train enough to have the proficincy required to be near proficient as strong side. Or at least with regards to doing so for better cover, for doing so because of strong side injuries absolutely, you have no choice but to shoot weak side at that point. Everyone always touts hits on target, misses with less personal physical exposure are still misses. Give a few inches and make those hits... IMO. Or train a lot, but we all know how budgets and time can be for training.
 
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/08/19/breaking-glock-17m-recalled-police-department/


BREAKING: Glock 17M Recalled By Police Department
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It looks like the new Glock 17M pistols are already experiencing some teething problems with the design changes. There are reports that Indianapolis Metro Police Department has halted issuing the new duty pistol due to problems during dry fire training. The recall comes after the pistols were supposed to be issued on July 31st, but delayed till August 15th due to unknown problems.

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The Firearm Blog’s source within the department declined to be named and only spoke on the condition of anonymity about the problems. Our source stated that the slides were falling off during dry fire training due to a potential issue with the recoil spring assembly and/or the slide lock. IMPD has recalled all issued Glock 17Ms to include the one that TFB was leaked photos of due to the problem.

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Once all the recalled pistols are back in IMPD’s hands, they will be sent back to Glock so that they may find a solution to the problems the new Glock variant is experiencing. At this time there is no indication as to how long the new duty weapons will be out of service for repairs.

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We have not received any more information about the flawed recoil spring assemblies at this time. TFB called Glock to ask for comment on the recall of the pistols and response at the time of publication. We also called IMPD’s media relations team, they have not returned our request for comment about the recall either.

My initial impression is there is a flaw with the slide lock springs, and the issue should be easily correctable. We shall see what happens in the coming weeks. I hope they identify the issue quickly so that these officers can get their new sidearms.
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The ambi slide catch is very important for lefties when clearing some stoppages and unloading for inspection.
 
JDForBrkFst said:
IMO the weak side shooting is a great idea in theory, but unrealistic for actual fighting for most as few actually train enough to have the proficincy required to be near proficient as strong side.
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In my real life experience, I can't recall ever seeing a member miss with every one of their shots shooting from the weak side barricade position during qualification. That was at 25 yards back in the late 70's/early 80's, and the Force was not known for being generous with ammunition for training at the time. What's unrealistic is telling a soldier or police officer to step out from effective cover rather than cover or engage from their weak side.

Shooting from the weak side, particularly from a supported position, really isn't all that difficult. It does require a little bit of practice - just as you have to practice strong side shooting. And if you're a cop, you're practicing weak side shooting anyways in case of an injury, so why you would not extend that further doesn't make much sense.

Everyone always touts hits on target, misses with less personal physical exposure are still misses. Give a few inches and make those hits... IMO.
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Or, give a few inches and take one in the chest or the guts. More likely, something like 14 - 16" as the distance between strong hand and support hand.

You can of course twist yourself into a pretzel to still shoot strong side while minimizing the extra exposure you give - but then your shooting is probably not going to be any better than if you just shoot support hand in the first place, with less exposure.

Even if weak side shooting really is that bad, most would rather have an unwounded partner missing a lot trying to hit the bad guy, than a wounded partner out of the fight, down with bullet wounds, and needing aid.
 
I heard from a guy that worked at a coffee shop in Red Deer, that the RCMP Air Marshals do all their training on school buses, as it's simpler and easier to do, and the kids don't scream as much when you wing one.
 
tobin said:
I thought the FBI wanted a gun that did not require the trigger to be pulled for disassembly. Either they dropped that requirement or if not, it will be interesting to see how Glock met it.

Went back and re-read the FBI requirements and see no reference to pulling the trigger for disassembly. My bad!

Now we can sit back and see what the RCMP picks - M&P or Sig 320. I have a funny feeling it won't be a Glock.
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are not the rcmp air marshalls going to glock 19's???
 
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