FBI is switching back to 9mm handguns.

I can miss with the 45acp just as well as I can with the 9MM. No problem. I have the skill....Practice makes perfect!

Take Care

Bob

Of interest is that I shoot 38spl, 357Mag, 44spl and 44Mag way better than 9mm and 45ACP?

How come?

M
 
A Video for those actually interested in terminal ballistics and the reason for the thread:

[video]http://bcove.me/d8a2249p[/video]
 
I don't know why people hate on the 40. I love my 9s but I also love my .40 and .45 pistols.

Omg the 9 is too weak, the 45 is too slow and won't penetrate butter.....
 
I don't know why people hate on the 40. I love my 9s but I also love my .40 and .45 pistols.

Omg the 9 is too weak, the 45 is too slow and won't penetrate butter.....

45 is too slow and won't penetrate butter? Gotta set up a new vest made out of butter. Does the salt content matter?
 
Oh my god, 5.7 got in here.

Brace yourselves, I think this could be the moment.

Everyone knows 4.6x30 is superior to 5.7.

Of interest is that I shoot 38spl, 357Mag, 44spl and 44Mag way better than 9mm and 45ACP?

How come?

M

Your fundamentals suck?

Yo man don't hate on the 5.7, that stuff is the tits when shot through my desert eagle 50ae. Hell I can shoot it backwards through there for extra damage homie.

Does your Deagle have da beamz????

45 is too slow and won't penetrate butter? Gotta set up a new vest made out of butter. Does the salt content matter?

The really secret is gravy. Gravy vests are superior to butter vests. Don't tell anyone though.
 
45 is too slow and won't penetrate butter? Gotta set up a new vest made out of butter. Does the salt content matter?

Has to be unsalted butter. :dancingbanana:
But in all seriousness I have heard much smack talk about .45 being too slow, 9mm being too weak or too small. You won't find me standing in front of either.
 
The part of the FBI's reasoning that folks here appear to be skimming over is that 70 to 80% of shots fired by officers miss the intended target. Plus they find with the lower recoil of the 9MM the accuracy rate is higher. There position here is that a hit with a smaller calibre is better over a miss with a larger. The high magazine capacity of a 9 mm is desirable as with the miss rate still being high in these circumstances the more lead the officer puts in the air heading in the general direction of the target supposedly the better the chance the target will be hit. The FBI's goal appears to be to disable the bad guy. The Armies goal I would imagine is to kill him. Two different goals.



I believe you're incorrect. Police tend to "stop the threat". The military must be humane and not kill under the Geneva convention. Their intention, I believe is to actually injure. Logistically injuries strain resources, deaths do not. Though that line of reasoning may have changed.
 
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I believe you're incorrect. Police tend to "stop the threat". The military must be humane and not kill under the Geneva convention. Their intention, I believe is to actually injure. Logistically injuries strain resources, deaths do not. Though that line of reasoning may have changed.


That reasoning only applies to war between nations. When you are responsible to treat the enemy combatant (as in Afghanistan), it actually strain YOUR resources to injure them.
 
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I believe you're incorrect. Police tend to "stop the threat". The military must be humane and not kill under the Geneva convention. Their intention, I believe is to actually injure. Logistically injuries strain resources, deaths do not. Though that line of reasoning may have changed.

That may have changed when the US Air Force was dropping napalm on villagers in Vietnam. Flowers are more deadly than any of this. Stopped the war in Vietnam.

Take Care

Bob
 
Everyone knows 4.6x30 is superior to 5.7.

Damns straight 4.6 is da bomb


Your fundamentals suck?

Nope it's because he uses a wild west shooting style

Does your Deagle have da beamz????

Maybe but I have the trots

The really secret is gravy. Gravy vests are superior to butter vests. Don't tell anyone though.

Bacon dipped in gravy. I just made a mess in my pants... dropped a tube of ap5 on it
 
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