FD12 light load cycling

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Just wondering if anyone is having problems cycling lighter loadings? I just recently got one used, and it seems like it will cycle 3" hunting shells reliably, but all the 2 3/4 I try doesn't cycle well. It seems to hang up on the feed ramp when loading the initial shell from the mag most of the time, and even 2 3/4 hunting loads didn't cycle reliably all the time. Target loads are not even cycling the action, and 2 3/4 hunting loads will stove pipe often. Now, what I'm wondering is if the spring is just designed for 3" loadings and too heavy, or does the gas piston need some break in time? What are people's experiences?

Also, I haven't tried 2 3/4" buckshot or slugs. On the to do list, just gets kind of expensive to rip off to check cycling properties.
 
So I'm going to update this for anyone else who might be experiencing issues with cycling light loads. The quick and easy fix is to use a tighter choke. I found I needed modified or better to cycle everything reliably. IC would cycle some target loads, which I'm guessing are a bit hotter, but not everything reliably. Cylinder would only cycle 3" hunting loads or slugs/buck shot. 2 3/4" hunting loads with cylinder will not cycle reliably. That said, target loads are cycling this action at almost the bare minimum, as it isn't throwing shells very far. Meaning it's probable that shooting target loads will cause the odd stove pipe. It's possible this will get better with time as the action wears in, however the gas piston isn't exactly the epitome of tight tolerances where it slides along the barrel, so it's possible this is one reason why light loads are an issue(too much blow by).

Essentially what's happening, is that the choke is creating a pressure spike in the barrel, which the gas cylinder needs in order to have enough impulse to cycle the action. It must be an impulse as the cylinder is really short, so it doesn't have much acceleration distance (3/4" at most). Using the barrel extension changes the timing and pressure of the impulse of the load hitting the choke, so it seems to require a tighter choke for the same effect. I didn't experiment with it beyond a couple mags, but it seems like it's detracting from the pressure, which makes sense.

Also, these guns will *not* cycle a paper shell. Which follows that a softer plastic shell will have similar issues. The feed ramp is...ungodly steep...almost vertical...so it'll probably really benefit from a proper polish and rounding off of corners. Something I'll do in the future when I find my dremel and polishing wheels. A mag with a steeper angle to the follower might also really benefit these guns. Anything to get that shell pointing upwards more. Although...it might run into wedging issues if the angle is too steep. Now that I'm thinking about it I'll have to go re examine the whole set up and geometry to be sure.

Anyways, hope this helps someone out. Realistically these findings should hold true for all semi auto shotguns.
 
I broke mine in with some relatively hot 2 3/4 and proceeded to shoot quite a bit of Score super target (light but not mouse farts) with nothing but a couple stovepipes.

Unfortunately variable QC just comes along with Turkish mag fed semis. I had an early MKA1919 that ran great too but that wasn’t the rule with those guns.
 
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