Federal gun grab?

There have been calls to write letters to your MP about this issue which I am all for. My question is, my MP is with the NDP. Will it even resonate with him or any other party about our concerns? Mind you I am not saying we should roll over and take this, I am just looking for guidance.
 
I agree with the simple answer,give for the current owners the prohibited status on their PAL.Would save a lot of problem,but still feel sorry for the hunters.
 
Briefing memos sent to policy advisers in the Ministers office are recommending that the VZ58 family also be reclassified
 
Alright i'm skipping ahead a bit here, but here's a good question...
If our non-restricted rifles are not registered (including semi-autos), who's to say that I own any other firearms at all except for my registered 1911 and AR? There's no paper trail saying I still own them, or any paper trail saying I own guns privately bought since the LGR was scrapped. Aside from raiding my house, police wouldn't know what I have. Assuming, they even find them, because if there was ever a gun grab i'd sure as hell be hiding my NR's in several places not at home.

*cough* I'll just leave this here...
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/wood115.html
 
Alright i'm skipping ahead a bit here, but here's a good question...
If our non-restricted rifles are not registered (including semi-autos), who's to say that I own any other firearms at all except for my registered 1911 and AR? There's no paper trail saying I still own them, or any paper trail saying I own guns privately bought since the LGR was scrapped. Aside from raiding my house, police wouldn't know what I have. Assuming, they even find them, because if there was ever a gun grab i'd sure as hell be hiding my NR's in several places not at home.

*cough* I'll just leave this here...
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/wood115.html

Do what you feel is best but understand you would probably go to jail if caught.
 
You are exactly correct, Sir ! It is no secret that Mr Harper is a liberal in a blue suit. This did not happen without his prior knowledge. Mr Blaney was selected because he is a lap dog for Steve. Mr Toews was not (and of course he found something better to do). Everyone must remember how when the Firearms Advisory Committee recommended relaxing some classifications from prohib status, how the PM reacted. Bob Rae stood up in the House and challenged Mr Harper about it. Mr Harper, without hesitation, agreed with his Liberal buddy, and the recommendations were quashed. Shortly thereafter several well educated and informed civilian members of the committee were dismissed and replaced with police officers. Have no delusions about it, this is approved by the PMO. And High River ? maybe not approved, but a blind eye turned to it. What is needed is a concerted effort to DUMP HARPER and replace him with a real conservative. Enough of this dog poo !
"Elections may change Government but the behind the scenes bureaucracy remains unchanged and they work away to their own agenda."
If ever there was a Government where this is not the case, you have it now. The current PMO keeps a tight rein on every Ministry and any bureaucrat that step out of line with the PMO might as update their resume. Heck, even Ministers tow the line with this PMO like non before. There is one agenda, the PMO's agenda.
So, John, the buck stops at the PMO on this one and to place any efforts at some 'bureaucratic boogie man' is misplaced efforts.
 
Briefing memos sent to policy advisers in the Ministers office are recommending that the VZ58 family also be reclassified

Reading this has literally made me feel sick to my stomach. If there was ever a time that we all need to stand together it looks like that time is now.
 
Alright i'm skipping ahead a bit here, but here's a good question...
If our non-restricted rifles are not registered (including semi-autos), who's to say that I own any other firearms at all except for my registered 1911 and AR? There's no paper trail saying I still own them, or any paper trail saying I own guns privately bought since the LGR was scrapped. Aside from raiding my house, police wouldn't know what I have. Assuming, they even find them, because if there was ever a gun grab i'd sure as hell be hiding my NR's in several places not at home.

*cough* I'll just leave this here...
http://www.backwoodshome.com/articles2/wood115.html

great plan, I am sure you will get to enjoy admiring your gun hidding under your bed with a flashlight....
 
I have never understood why we had multiple small orgs working on their own agendas, we need one group working for the people.

Nothing against any of the current org presidents but if anyone I would like to see Soloman put in charge. Young, well spoken, smart, calm. He always seems to be the voice of reason.

This issue wont simply one be one we can throw money at to go away, that hasn't worked for us yet. LGR was small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.

I'm very curious to see what will come of this.
 
Absolutely!! I think we need to tell NFA, CSSA etc that we will not be renewing memberships untill they all sit down together and become one united Association. Call it whatever you want but let it only be one united large organ that speaks for all firearm owners.



I have never understood why we had multiple small orgs working on their own agendas, we need one group working for the people.

Nothing against any of the current org presidents but if anyone I would like to see Soloman put in charge. Young, well spoken, smart, calm. He always seems to be the voice of reason.

This issue wont simply one be one we can throw money at to go away, that hasn't worked for us yet. LGR was small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.

I'm very curious to see what will come of this.
 
Absolutely!! I think we need to tell NFA, CSSA etc that we will not be renewing memberships untill they all sit down together and become one united Association. Call it whatever you want but let it only be one united large organ that speaks for all firearm owners.

Yes!! Also every sponsor and all their employees right down to the janitors need to wright letters to parliament.

as the future of gun sales depends on the outcome of this. who wants to by another 3,000.00 dollar gun, only to have it taken away??

Does anyone really think that the next expensive fun/cool firearm will be treated any different?
 
Yes!! Also every sponsor and all their employees right down to the janitors need to wright letters to parliament.

as the future of gun sales depends on the outcome of this. who wants to by another 3,000.00 dollar gun, only to have it taken away??

Does anyone really think that the next expensive fun/cool firearm will be treated any different?

I hope you don't seriously think that we don't write letters, make phone calls and fight the fight everyday. I am a Canadian Sport Shooter, and firearms, shooting and hunting is a lifestyle for me, not a pastime, and I know that amongst many others I am not alone.
 
The way we have been treated by the CPC after all the support they got from us to get elected I feel like the girl who was told "of course I'll respect you in the morning."

We've been used badly and now that we are not needed, we get dropped and forgotten.

The CPC has shown its true colours now. Opportunist power grabbers.
 
Placing tin foil hat firmly on my head.

Sometimes I think the push to get the firearms out of peoples hands is because those in power fear civil unrest like what is going on in the Ukraine right now.

You see, this confuses me too.


First, I agree that it is about control. What you are saying is it is about control, gun control = control, period.


But, an entirely new twist on things, something i do not feel i have ever mentioned, is that KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

If a government wants ton truly control their people they need merely do 3 things

1) weaken the education system so it is ineffective or only teaches non critical thought
2) censor and control the INTERNET
3) censor and control the MAINSTREAM MEDIA


they do not need gun control at all........ utterly stupid brainwashed people with guns would be their pawns plain and simple.



That being said if they do NOT control knowledge people have the ability to LEARN how to make improvised explosive devices such as pipe bombs or rudimentary directed explosives akin to claymores........ an enclosed concrete basement with a few litters of propane is enough to collapse a multi story building. Chemical weapons- almost child's play- hard to not make by mistake when cleaning your home or doing laundry.......don't mix X with Y or you have yourself some heavier than air WW1 trench gases. Biological weapons- first year university students are taught about the basics of drug resistance, dna and rna mutations being passed from bacteria to bacteria through transposons etc, how to grow bacterial cultures in nutrient agar with sheeps blood and to test the effectiveness of anti biotics on said bacteria. It would be nothing to teach a common bacteria to become resistant to any known anti biotic on purpose- heck most of us do this any time we dont finish our medications and permit X pathogen to survive long enough to adapt and then breed. Common pathogens from 100 years ago, treatable by modern antibiotics, could be made into super bugs (not that they are not already) and spread on purpose using human vectors killing untold numbers (rather than trying to not spread a germ,fathom if you will purposly trying to- airports etc)...... again- IF a person had the desire and basic microbiology training. Guns, by contrast, are exceptionally easy to MAKE...... but thing is I can not fathom an intelligent person ever wanting to use a gun for offensive violent reasons unless they were suicidal and wanted to be famous (media).... smart people could do many bad things in many more effective ways with the chance of not being caught at all. Federal building bombings, homemade nerve (Sarin) gas attacks by the doom's day cult........ and so forth. (NOTE Im making reference to mass killings, which is what most gun control is based on- fear and emotion after spree killings)

In SHORT I think knowledge is power, it could be used as a weapon by a person if that was their intent. You can not ban knowledge in a FREE society, you can only ban things......... things that smart people can produce, purchase on the black market, or bypass with something far more insidious (explosives, chemical, biological weapons). In the end it always comes down to violence, the intent of violent people....... not "things".
 
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