Federal Tactical Buckshot
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tactical870
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Nope..... Can't say I've tried it.... But Remington 3.5" 00B makes me giggle like a schoolgirl.....
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The federal tactical shoots very tight (about half the spread of "regular" buckshot). Even with lower velocity it has more than enough power to do it's job, there is slightly less concern of over penetration, and it does allow faster follow-up shots.
The "neutered" ammo is also just right when I plan on shooting 500 rounds of buck and slugs over a weekend.
BigUglyMan
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Just curious, when do you have to shoot 500 rounds of 12b in a weekend?
Thank equal opportunity political correctness hiring policies for "reduced recoil" defensive ammo. Have you hugged a mini-mountie today?
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Taking a shotgun/handgun course in August. 500 rounds of 12 gauge and 1000 rounds of handgun ammo.
Does the price go down if it sits around for awhile?
If it sat around for a while (say a couple of years) then compared to the new stuff coming out at a higher retail price then it would seem like a deal. My point was that this stuff, a couple of years ago was $5/box now...our new stuff we just paid for at the new improved wholesale price makes it $7/box. The price should have been $8/ box but we placed our bulk (10 plus) price on the individual box prices to try and cushion the blow to the retail customer. Much of our new ammunition is that is coming in wholesale cost is what I was charging retail for old inventory. Phil.
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i buy the Federal value packs from Crappy Tire. i'll go through 100 rounds in about 45 minutes when i'm trap shooting clays.
Pietro Beretta
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Why would someone want 12GA 2 3/4 00buck of 9pellets WHEN you can have the same load BUT 12pellets ??? I'd rather have 12 pellets than 9.....what's the deal? What makes it "tactical"???
Pietro Beretta
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Reduced recoil = reduced velocity = less penetration = less effectiveness
Tighter patterns??? depends on barrel lenght & distance. I've used my RemExpress loads (2 3/4" 00BUCK 12 Pellets) out of both my 870 MM 18" & 14" M590-A1 and get tight patterns up to 25 yards. How tight is tight?
Tighter patterns??? depends on barrel lenght & distance. I've used my RemExpress loads (2 3/4" 00BUCK 12 Pellets) out of both my 870 MM 18" & 14" M590-A1 and get tight patterns up to 25 yards. How tight is tight?
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The reduced penetration is still plenty deep (14-15" IIRC), some barrels shoot the FT to .5" per yard out to 25yards (cyl choke).
BigUglyMan
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Have you hugged a mini-mountie today?
I quit doing that since I got married.
Also begs to question the wisdom of a "one size fits all" approach to shotgun stocks.Still, I don't have a lot of time for reduced recoil anything. 12b 00 buck isn't that bad in reality. Not that I'd want to run a case of slugs through my 870 with the M4 stock on it. Sans recoil pad is just plain nasty. But a wood or syn stock with a pad is all good. The new stocks with the new Remington pads (what are they calling those things now - R3 or something?) are downright sweeties. When you're trying to make things dead, there's no such thing as "too dead".
Not necessarily. As long as you have at least 12" penetration in 10% ordnance gelatin, that is adequate for use against two-legged varmints. Any weapon is a compromise between terminal effect and controllability. This is why a .44 Magnum with full-power loads is a poor choice as a combat handgun.
While every shotgun is a law unto itself when it comes to patterning, anything I have read indicates that the Federal Tactical buckshot seems to pattern consistently well in most shotguns.
Me think the "tactical " of this ammo is in the name and more importantly the price. Some people here talk about shotgun patterns like they were rifle patterns.
When it comes to buckshot, get whatever is cheap in 2 3/4" with 9 or 12 pellets. Personally I went for Marstar's 12 pellet Winchester loads as they were the best price going at the time for bulk.
tjhaile:
You know that fewer pellets doesn't make tighter patterns (unless the wadding or something else is changing it for you) you just get emptier patterns. More pellets, more holes more chances for hits. All thing considered equal 12 pellets should give you the same density overall.
When it comes to buckshot, get whatever is cheap in 2 3/4" with 9 or 12 pellets. Personally I went for Marstar's 12 pellet Winchester loads as they were the best price going at the time for bulk.
tjhaile:
You know that fewer pellets doesn't make tighter patterns (unless the wadding or something else is changing it for you) you just get emptier patterns. More pellets, more holes more chances for hits. All thing considered equal 12 pellets should give you the same density overall.
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Federal uses some kind of fancy wad in their Tactical buckshot, which, along with copper plating, helps it shoot tighter patterns. It so happens that the tactical loading also holds fewer pellets.
I'm not arguing that fewer pellets all things equal will throw a tighter pattern, but rather that this particular loading does have a good reputation for patterning.
I'm not arguing that fewer pellets all things equal will throw a tighter pattern, but rather that this particular loading does have a good reputation for patterning.
in my experience, cheap ammo gets my gun dirty very quickly...this is especially a problem for the Fabarm with its spring assisted pump...after shooting a few boxes of cheap ammo, the spring assist will stop working reliably...this has never happened with "tactical" ammo.
RL
