Finally got the 9's out

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So after getting into hand gun last winter I waited awhile to get the 9's out....OK was busy all summer fishing but finally did it. Joined Easthill Outdoors and decided to give it a go. Been killing me owning these two and not shooting until now but found out I may have developed some issues shooting 22 .

I started out at 5 yards and 10 yards to get feel of the sights and both guns shooting 4 inches low. I was shooting a CZ shadow and a Jericho 941. Both were consistent in being 4" low even at 5 yards. Maybe I'm gripping too tight or trying to straight arm to make sure I'm controlling any muzzle jump....not sure....Groups were awesome but low.
Maybe I will try to relax and try to shoot with half moon or 1/4 moon on sights....looking for suggestions before I drop money on adjustable elevation sights for both.

Any advice appreciated.
 
Ontariooutdoorsman said:
So after getting into hand gun last winter I waited awhile to get the 9's out....OK was busy all summer fishing but finally did it. Joined Easthill Outdoors and decided to give it a go. Been killing me owning these two and not shooting until now but found out I may have developed some issues shooting 22 .

I started out at 5 yards and 10 yards to get feel of the sights and both guns shooting 4 inches low. I was shooting a CZ shadow and a Jericho 941. Both were consistent in being 4" low even at 5 yards. Maybe I'm gripping too tight or trying to straight arm to make sure I'm controlling any muzzle jump....not sure....Groups were awesome but low.
Maybe I will try to relax and try to shoot with half moon or 1/4 moon on sights....looking for suggestions before I drop money on adjustable elevation sights for both.

Any advice appreciated.
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When I started out I was always shooting low and to the left; not even on the target at 20 yards. I set up a target at 5 yards and shot, and I was in the bottom left. I then set up a rest, and everything was in the middle. It was me and not the gun.

After that, I practiced a lot; both dry firing and shooting (over 500 rounds), and now, most of the time they are on the small target (6" x 6") at 20 yards; with the majority in the black... Norinco NZ85B.

I was so happy with that Pistol, I went out and got a Norinco 1911A1 with the adjustable rear sight, and with only 100 rounds through it, I'm able to put most on the small target already! BTW, it has the adjustable rear sight, and was lighty used when I got it (powder residue and packing grease still inside); my guess is that the first owner could not hit anything with it and blamed the gun. I shot five rounds from a rest at 5 yards, and they were way low and way right. After a bit of adjustment, it was shooting where I pointed it. I really like it too!

Be patient, don't get discouraged, and shoot the hell out of them. I would suggest sticking with one or the other and get good with it; shooting both is adding an extra variable.
 
4" low at 5 yds is you, not the sights. Work with a local instructor/skilled shooter to get some coaching, and you will get on track in no time.
 
One more thing, at 5 yds, the Shadow will shoot a little bit low, but if you want to see what you're doing, mix some snap caps with your live rounds when you are shooting. So your mag will be something like "live, live, dummy, live, dummy, dummy....."

Grip the pistol, get your sight picture, focus on the front sight post so you can see it clearly, then pull that trigger back. When you get to the dummy round, what did your front sight post do? I'll bet money that most often it'll drop as you push the muzzle low when pulling the trigger. :)

Each time you anticipate recoil like that, you'll be driving the muzzle down, making your shots go low. When you do that, take a mental break, refocus your brain on isolating that trigger finger, and do it again. Constant refocusing after a mistake like that will slowly make that reflex go away. It will take some time though. Keep at it!
 
Don't worry about trying to control the recoil—just grip the gun firmly, like a good handshake. Don't lock your elbows. Focus on the front sight for the entire trigger pull. Hold the trigger back after the gun fires just for a bit then ease it forwards...don't "snatch" it.
 
Low left is anticipating recoil and too much finger on trigger I think. I started out the same way. Good thing you didn't mess with the sights. Most modern guns are factory zeroed at about 25 yards. My 941 specifically stated that in the manual as well. Google shooting low left on YouTube . First or second video is a big help

Edit: Disregard the trigger finger part. I'm not sure that's applying to your case here after reading.
Here try these vids


 
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Thanks all....going out tomorrow to work on things. Most likely was anticipating recoil and gripping too tight but will work on it tomorrow.,,,Once again thanks...very helpful information.
 
THANKS!!!! It was defiantly anticipating recoil. Went out today and started the same....not only low but let. Took out the 22 LR buchmark and immediately did same thing. Shot about 70 rounds with the 22 and went back to the 9 and much better!!! Will now work on trigger pull and comfortable grip.
 
Ontariooutdoorsman said:
THANKS!!!! It was defiantly anticipating recoil. Went out today and started the same....not only low but let. Took out the 22 LR buchmark and immediately did same thing. Shot about 70 rounds with the 22 and went back to the 9 and much better!!! Will now work on trigger pull and comfortable grip.
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Excellent news! It must be very satisfying to see good improvement!
 
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