Finding Flintlock Rifles in Ontario/Online

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Howdy y'all!

I've been recently trying to get into flintlock shooting as my local club has a blackpowder range. Its been a chore to find a Canadian store that sells flintlocks however. Cabela's was my first choice but i was late on purchasing my chosen Traditions Hawken Woodsman and they've been out of stock since, and i dont particularly want to shell out the money for a Pedersoli to start (only other muskets ive been able to find, on MarStar).

If anyone can point me in the right direction it'd be greatly appreciated!
 
Depends on what style of flintlock you're after. If you're fine with a somewhat modern take on the Hawken rifle, I know Becky at Hillfolk Musket Supply has a couple used ones on hand set up as flinters for around $500 when I checked a couple weeks ago. They do not have a website, but she is relatively easy to reach by phone. (A google search should bring up their contact info.)

But if you're after the more traditional american longrifle style of gun, Marstar is your only bet for the time being, as far as I am aware of anyway. I'm currently saving up for a Pedersoli Frontier in either flint or percussion, haven't quite settled on that yet.

Good luck!
 
@StrelokM38
I'm gonna try getting in contact with Becky once time allows, thank you for that!

@sail32
Where did you order from? I've been eyeballing IRUNGUNZ and muzzle-loaders but unsure due to international shipping regs with today's situation. (Most specify that they can't ship to most blue states and north of the border)

@flintyboom
Most definitely would be interested in a custom gun, especially being my first flintlock. Only thing is pricing as i don't know what would be appropriate for a learner like myself, without jumping headfirst into a purchase.
 
Where did you order from? I've been eyeballing IRUNGUNZ and muzzle-loaders but unsure due to international shipping regs with today's situation. (Most specify that they can't ship to most blue states and north of the border)
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Dixie, Deer Creek and Track of the Wolf do for sure, Sitting Fox I believe does as well, there's others.
 
Connect with local clubs for used options.

Second best is often the US as the market and interest there is exponentially larger than Canada. This is especially true if you want something exotic or particular. Flint long guns are no problem to import.

Loyalist Arms is another Canadian option.
loyalistarms.freeservers.com
 
Custom guns of the long rifle era are a real rarity in Canada - perhaps Mooncoon can advise here. You should be aware that the word 'custom' is always accompanied by the words 'cost a lot of money', as you might expect. the USA, particularly the North East, top to bottom, are very well off for custom gunmakers of that style - you could do yourself a favour and join with the rest of us on muzzleloadingforum.com, where many builders, like Mike Brooks, actually post regularly, showing off their latest effort for some lucky shooter.

For what it's worth, I recommend that you start shooting BP with an off-the-shelf percussion gun, rather than a flintlock of any kind - in that way you can always move it on if you find that it's just too much of a PITA.

The BEST suggestion here has been to join a group and see what it's really all about before committing yourself to a unique $5000 rifle.
 
tacfoley said:
For what it's worth, I recommend that you start shooting BP with an off-the-shelf percussion gun, rather than a flintlock of any kind - in that way you can always move it on if you find that it's just too much of a PITA.
The BEST suggestion here has been to join a group and see what it's really all about before committing yourself to a unique $5000 rifle.
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There are 3 different muzzle loading groups on facebook, that entertain mostly builders:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/236476743704892/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/185110378489314/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/420761075368972/

Again, mostly US posts, but it will get you into the spirit of things & I completely agree with the suggestion. ;) As mentioned, BP shooting is way more popular down south :(

Check out the black powder/muzzle loading exchange on this site - more 'economical' options show up weekly, there is a TC Hawken percussion on there now asking $500, I may be wrong, but I believe you can get a flint replacement lock and convert it (or have it converted). Though again for $500 it's a good start.

Once you are ready to drop that $5k, gimme a call ;)

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Another thing you can do is find someone local - where are you in Ontario?

-sean
 
I also build them. But custom scratch builds like I do are going to run you 3k and higher. Knowledge and skill isn’t cheap. If your just looking to shoot and don’t care if it’s a factory gun find a pedersoli. If you think 3-5k cad is expensive, our American counterparts cost that much, and more
In USD.
 
Ellwood epps has a new lyman Great Plains flinter for sale which though not cheap is cheaper than a new pedersoli and would help you int the flintlock learning curve without costing you too much money.The one thing about flintlocks is cheaping out on a flinter is an excerise in frustation.unlike a percussion lock a flintlock requires more of a proper geometry to be reliable and also the touch hole has to be in the proper position with the pan of the lock.That is one of the differences between a custom made piece and an assembly line gun as in a custom piece more attention to the critical details are paid assuming you find a competent smith.
 
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Keep in mind too that the $850 does not include $200 for the lock. Jim's kits are top of the line though, and he's started making cnc machined locks.
 
flintyboom said:
Keep in mind too that the $850 does not include $200 for the lock. Jim's kits are top of the line though, and he's started making cnc machined locks.
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The really sad part is exchange is $0.68 today, after the credit cards get done with you it will be $0.65 - or 35% plus shipping, plus duty .... probably $1700+ !! ouch !!
 
Sean I ordered an L&R late English lock for that last build I did. All in I was in 300$ for the lock alone. Not ordering parts for a while. At least not until the $ comes back down somewhere near reality.
 
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Sean I ordered an L&R late English lock for that last build I did. All in I was in 300$ for the lock alone. Not ordering parts for a while. At least not until the $ comes back down somewhere near reality.
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yea - I am sitting on $600 in parts waiting to pull the trigger.... over $1000 by the time it gets here :(

funny, there is an iron foundry about 1/2 hour from me, I've looked into it before, it's really not expensive to have stuff cast. but no idea what I would do with 100 butt plates and trigger guards..!
 
The trick is to find a foundry that will fool around with small orders that require serious quality control.
It is entirely possible to make the dies for injection molding the waxes for investment casting. But you need a specialty foundry to do the casting. A foundry that does art casting might be an option for non-ferrous pieces - and they are used to doing small runs. But precision casting alloy steel is a whole other ballgame.
I have most of what I believe is a Michael Mater, Chippawa ON target pistol. Mater used clamshell iron castings for the frames of his guns. Mine is missing the left side grip. Basically a simple iron casting, could be sand cast using a wooden pattern. Anyone know of an iron foundry that would pour a couple of pieces?

Everything I have seen about Jim Kibler is that his kits are about as high quality as can be had.
 
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