Firearm and Ammo Removed by Constable

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First of all, thanks for taking the time to read and offer a little advice.

One of my co-work got himself in a little sticky situation. His wife and him were having some conflicts at home, and without thinking it through, he went out by himself to have a couple of drinks. I guess he was really upset with whatever it was, that he thought it'd be a good idea to end himself by CO2 poisoning.

Anyways, from what I heard, he was only missing for no more than 12 hours, and of course his wife and family reported to the cops for missing person with an intent of suicide. The local municipal constable showed up at their residence, and his wife mentioned that he had a handgun, and the constable took it along with his brand new case of ammo. (He stored his hand gun properly according to the rules, trigger locked in a locked case, and ammos locked in a container)

After speaking with my friend about what happened, his said he definitely took an impulsive approach to this minor family dispute and regretted deeply. But now he can't come out to shoot with us, cause the constable took his gun.

He just told me today, that he contacted the constable and the constable mentioned something along the line of crown counsel is looking to remove his RPAL/PAL license and he will never ever get back his hand gun and ammo.

As a responsible gun owner myself, I knew he messed up by not thinking it through, he had since under went counseling and even saw a doctor, but he was not diagnosed in anyway with depression or has any previous suicide attempts.

But as a close friend, I can see the mistakes that he made and his willingness to change and discuss problems accordingly. He is passionate about guns, and loves to shoot. And he just want to get back with his group of friends and go out to the range and have some fun.

I thought no better place to help him then to post here seeking some opinions.

Thanks again for the long read and any help that will be offered.
 
HOw long ago was the dispute? If he is having that type of impulse it is probably for the best that he doesn't have access to a firearm at the moment... ?
 
Your friend made a rather large mistake which will cost him. The local law enforcement will always attempt to paint a worst case scenario picture for the crown prosecutor. Any act of violence or self endangerment handled by law enforcement will always result in an attempt to revoke a firearms licence. If your friend wants to keep his licence, he should get in touch with a lawyer....better yet, a firearms lawyer.
 
Well I hope he realizes that he caused this to happen.
If this was me, I would start from 0. I would apply for a new PAL. I would probably be rejected, but I would be given a reason for the rejection. If they think I'm mentally unstable, I would go get counseling in hopes of getting a letter of clean health. I would use that letter to try and get pardoned.

On the other hand, he can just shoot with you guys without owning guns.
 
Thanks for the replies

I think he told me this happened in February of this year, so its been 4 months now. The funny thing is, when I asked if the RCMP or CFO contacted him directly to discuss this matter, he said no, no one called him. To which I thought was odd, because it was the RCMP that found him that night.

He still has his RPAL/PAL license with him. That hang gun the police took wasn't cheap, along with his new case of ammo that he bought just a few days before. I can see he just wanted to get his belongings back, as he suffers no mental illness or any kind of depression at all.

Also, this situation kind of worries me a little bit, I know the constable had the rights to remove the firearm based on the fact that he was "missing" "suicidal", but the fact of the matter is, how can they try to revoke his license and confiscate his personal belongings just base on this little incident? Now that his mindset if healthy and stable, he told me he was discharged from the local hospital within 12 hours after they found him.


Thanks again for reading
 
PAL is a privilege that the government give you (unfortunately). They can technically remove it anytime they want and you can always challenge their decision, but that will take time and money.
Hopefully your friend learned his lesson and wont do any more stupid stuff and repeat his mistakes.
Hopefully the prosecutors won't put a firearm ban on him...if his has a firearm ban, he can not go shooting with his friends.
 
Crappy deal for him I guess, he wont want to hear from me tomorrow when I see him.

But from my point of view, if they want to revoke his license, at least let him sell off the gun and ammo to recoup some of the cost. Which I think is more than fair considering he will never ever own another firearm in this lifetime.
 
...12 hours? I work longer than 12hrs. How is a person missing after only 12hrs? I had always heard that a 24hr wait time was "common practice" for law enforcement before accepting missing person's reports (perhaps the suicide portion of the story adjusted this?).

When you apply for your PAL/RPAL there is a section to be filled out and signed by your spouse, your spouse/person who lives with you needs to sign off. If your buddies wife called it in, maybe, just maybe, the RCMP could claim that she was revoking her approval of firearms in her residence? This is speculation as to what law enforcement could conceive of...
 
Indeed, agree on the 12 hour time frame.

My wife and I have talked with Molly, and she did not express any form of concern in my friend getting his firearms back. In fact, she was kind of shocked how the constable just bluntly took the gun and the ammo case and left. All in all, I think he should get a lawyer and fight this one.
 
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