- Location
- S. Ontario
Why don't we hire the paid protestors to do this?
Firearms reform rumored release this week.
- Thread starter Wolverine .303
- Start date
Why don't we hire the paid protestors to do this?
Patt08
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I’ve wrote him a few emails, as well as his minion who made that announcement, commented to him on twitter and FB, and send a snail mail letter months ago asking what steps he is prepared to actually take, if any. Crickets.
TRich
CGN Regular
- Location
- Kawartha Lakes, Ontario
Wolverine, what is the process for you dealers? Presumably there are millions, if not billions of dollars in inventory with dealers across the province, are you able to return it to the manufacturer? Is the government making you eat it? Have you been talking to other dealers about a class action suit.
HKRoger
Member
- Location
- St-Jean sur Richelieu, Quebec
The CCFR or other group should start a legal fund to fight this. yes, you can fight an OIC with a collective recourse. Remember we have a petition who has 175000 names on it. Let's get a firm like Fasken or another very large firm and fight for what we believe in. Hell no!! you are not getting our guns! there is no reason to do such a thing besides political hype or the neurotic rants of Rathjen or Provost who should of seeked help for their trauma instead of passing it on to us for no good reason. This is what OUR ASSOCIATIONS should be doing today.... and if we do go to war to maintain our privileges, let's go for the whole can of beans, even the 1995 reform that is so outdated it's a laughable document.
bobdbldr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nova Scotia
A question, if we have a stripped lower as many LGS are selling and AR15 get prohibited and grandfathered, can we still finish the build or does it have to stay in the form it was registered?
Baillie
New member
- Location
- Nova Scotia
I made a call 5mins ago to CFO...the lady said to "call back this afternoon they cant access thier system cause its being updated"...
You can finish the lower without changing the registration at all.
Assuming that aspect of the law hasn't changed, a firearm registered as "frame only" can wear an upper for up to 30 days before having its registration altered to reflect a caliber and barrel length.
Assuming that aspect of the law hasn't changed, a firearm registered as "frame only" can wear an upper for up to 30 days before having its registration altered to reflect a caliber and barrel length.
Milanczar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
At this point there is only a general list.
There has been mention that this will be expanded to include what are termed 'variants' etc.
While folks have said that some firearms are not included there could be an expansion to include them that is still in the shadows.
- Location
- Mississauga
“Up to 1500 models.......” wonder how many different ar15 manufacturers there are out there...
JJ1979
Member
- Location
- West of GTA
Do we have proof of this?
this really pisses me off. the guy had a violent history, arrested for previous assault and other things. so if he legally obtained those guns the RCMP really dropped the ball lettting him get his license, so im assuming they weren't even legally purchased guns, probably more from the usa. and somehow we are getting punished. This is an abomination.
- Location
- Ottawa, ON
From now on you all own restricted and don’t have a single NR. Catch my drift?
NaturalCory
New member
Chuckbuster
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
In terms of compliance with Emperor Justin's fiat: Do nothing. If and when the time comes, file a separate revocation hearing application for each individual registered firearm they want from you. Registering anything that is currently non-restricted in order to be grandfathered, is just setting the stage for them to be confiscated at a later date.
Milanczar
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Nothing about anything on the CBC at 9AM
Not one of the stories which are Helicopter crash, Flooding and Covid
Not one of the stories which are Helicopter crash, Flooding and Covid
extrasauce
Regular
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- Somewhere in Surrey
Let's not forget the clear message that the liberals are sending to all Canadians here: Law abiding, responsible, hard working Canadian firearms owners are WORSE than gang bangers, drug dealers, rapists, and murders. The liberals are broadcasting to everyone around the world that all PAL holders in Canada should be feared more than the aforementioned thugs; their numbers say this loud and clear.
Not convinced? Well, let's take a look.
From CBC News, "...the federal Liberal government has committed just $87 million over five years for detection dogs, X-ray technology, ballistics testing and other measures to stifle rising gun violence." Now contrast that with the, so far, committed $250M to "buy back" legally acquired and possessed property from honest law abiding Canadians. To clarify further, that's $87M spread out over five years versus a quarter billion dollars shoveled out in one shot.
If the liberals consider their five year plan as a "top priority" (CBC News), but are only committing a total of $87M, or $17.4M per year, then what are they saying about firearms owners in this country? The liberals then must consider firearms owners to be an even larger threat to all of humanity than the worst criminals you could ever imagine. If "top priority" is worth $87M spread out over five years, than how high a level of threat/priority must the liberals consider honest folks, in legal possession of legally acquired property, to be if they're willing to cough up $250M in one shot?
I remember all too well the knee-jerk fiasco that resulted from the 1989 shooting in Montreal. Everyone then, like now, allowed irrational emotions to guide their way while completely disregarding any logic, science, or facts of any kind. But this time it is worse, much worse. As ridiculous as the new restrictions and classifications imposed upon us in 1995 were, at least it was thoroughly debated with everyone at least had a feeling that their voice was somewhat heard. Furthermore, although there were plenty of folks with the "why does anyone even need a firearm" mindset back then as well, the government was NOT painting all firearms owners as some sort of comic book super-villain whose sole purpose in life is to amass an arsenal of "assault style, military-grade weapons" with the intention of who knows what.
Further amplifying the point that the liberals view firearms owners as a threat to humanity, greater than anything it has faced up to this point, is their refusal to introduce their so called gun "control" platform in the House and open it up for debate. Sure the Bloc and the NDP both claim to support any new legislation, but if this were open to debate in the house, made public, and MPs started having their constituents bombarding them to vote 'no', you may very well see that party whips end up with more than which they bargained and the motion failing. So ramming this through now, via an OIC with a minority government that lost the popular vote, and having the willingness to blow $250M in one shot demonstrates to the world the threat that the liberals believe are firearms owners.
Finally, for all the naysayers out there, this is indeed a slippery slope. Except it's not the beginning of it as we're already sliding down the hill. All it takes is an irresponsible and unaccountable government to misuse and abuse their power once and it gets easier and easier every subsequent time. Look at these past five years, the liberals have gotten so used to doing whatever they want unchallenged, the people be damned, that they move about now with a feeling of complete impunity. So, is this latest gun "control" reform the beginning of a slippery slope? Nope, we're already half down the hill my friends.
Not convinced? Well, let's take a look.
From CBC News, "...the federal Liberal government has committed just $87 million over five years for detection dogs, X-ray technology, ballistics testing and other measures to stifle rising gun violence." Now contrast that with the, so far, committed $250M to "buy back" legally acquired and possessed property from honest law abiding Canadians. To clarify further, that's $87M spread out over five years versus a quarter billion dollars shoveled out in one shot.
If the liberals consider their five year plan as a "top priority" (CBC News), but are only committing a total of $87M, or $17.4M per year, then what are they saying about firearms owners in this country? The liberals then must consider firearms owners to be an even larger threat to all of humanity than the worst criminals you could ever imagine. If "top priority" is worth $87M spread out over five years, than how high a level of threat/priority must the liberals consider honest folks, in legal possession of legally acquired property, to be if they're willing to cough up $250M in one shot?
I remember all too well the knee-jerk fiasco that resulted from the 1989 shooting in Montreal. Everyone then, like now, allowed irrational emotions to guide their way while completely disregarding any logic, science, or facts of any kind. But this time it is worse, much worse. As ridiculous as the new restrictions and classifications imposed upon us in 1995 were, at least it was thoroughly debated with everyone at least had a feeling that their voice was somewhat heard. Furthermore, although there were plenty of folks with the "why does anyone even need a firearm" mindset back then as well, the government was NOT painting all firearms owners as some sort of comic book super-villain whose sole purpose in life is to amass an arsenal of "assault style, military-grade weapons" with the intention of who knows what.
Further amplifying the point that the liberals view firearms owners as a threat to humanity, greater than anything it has faced up to this point, is their refusal to introduce their so called gun "control" platform in the House and open it up for debate. Sure the Bloc and the NDP both claim to support any new legislation, but if this were open to debate in the house, made public, and MPs started having their constituents bombarding them to vote 'no', you may very well see that party whips end up with more than which they bargained and the motion failing. So ramming this through now, via an OIC with a minority government that lost the popular vote, and having the willingness to blow $250M in one shot demonstrates to the world the threat that the liberals believe are firearms owners.
Finally, for all the naysayers out there, this is indeed a slippery slope. Except it's not the beginning of it as we're already sliding down the hill. All it takes is an irresponsible and unaccountable government to misuse and abuse their power once and it gets easier and easier every subsequent time. Look at these past five years, the liberals have gotten so used to doing whatever they want unchallenged, the people be damned, that they move about now with a feeling of complete impunity. So, is this latest gun "control" reform the beginning of a slippery slope? Nope, we're already half down the hill my friends.
ARmike
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Chargerguy
CGN frequent flyer
I just conducted my own poll. 2 out of 2 Canadians are against a gun ban and support less firearm restrictions.
