Fireclean= Crisco.

as big red just posted.
If you are worried about over paying, just use ATF, when I was doing ipsc full time, shooting 20-30 k a year in an 8000$ svi and a $3000 sti as a back up gun, all I used was ATF I think I still have 1/2 L left..
 
Or just use motor oil and forget about the rituals some of these other products involve.

I actually agree with this but when I'm cleaning my guns I don't like to wear plastic throw away gloves sometimes and I'm done getting things like Break free cancer causing elements on my hands.

But I hear you and if I didn't get exemia on my hands I would probably have not changed and would have gone with Slip2000 if anything. But Fireclean or Froglube works fine. Sonic cleaner will be nice too , which I have on order.
 
That's because it is reacting to residual oils still on your gun. Even a spec of other oils or grease does this after a while. You really have to detail strip and completely degrease it and use several cycles of frog luge before it works properly and stay using frog lube after. The slightest clp say from break free gets in there and it defeats the purpose. This I'm convinced is 99% of the problem. Even if you get say some other oil that gets in there from say your magazine it reacts badly.

Must be it. Someone should video such results.

Or just use motor oil and forget about the rituals some of these other products involve.
Tis the plan, & I already use wheel bearing grease when grease is needed.
 
I actually agree with this but when I'm cleaning my guns I don't like to wear plastic throw away gloves sometimes and I'm done getting things like Break free cancer causing elements on my hands.

But I hear you and if I didn't get exemia on my hands I would probably have not changed and would have gone with Slip2000 if anything. But Fireclean or Froglube works fine. Sonic cleaner will be nice too , which I have on order.

You may like to give Balistol a try it's pretty safe
 
The LAV has spoken;
https://www.facebook.com/LarryVickers?fref=nf

Don't get me wrong, I think FIREclean is a great product. It turns out it is much simpler than I thought it was.....

In case anyone here doesn't have Facebook..I copied and pasted it here:

Larry Vickers
1 hr ·


So I've gotten numerous requests to weigh in on the' FIREClean is Crisco' drama so here goes;

1) I have no first hand knowledge of the FIREClean formula as the two brothers behind it have never shared the specific recipe with me. In fact they have never shared it with anyone that I am aware of - can't say I blame them as this is just protecting their brand

2) the FIREClean as Crisco debate doesn't pass the common sense test to me simply because FC has numerous patents pending on their product- none of which would ever be valid if it is simply a commercial off the shelf product like Crisco. Surely I'm not the only one who has wondered about this ? But then again if there was an agenda involved to smear FC then common sense would not be present on any level - and all indicators are that was the case

3) I'm puzzled on why some people are up in arms about it being a vegetable based product ? It's a 'Green' Eco Friendly product so that rules out Petroleum based - that only leaves plants and trees for the potential sources of the lubricant used. So what ?

4) the only problem I have had with it is thickening up on a 1911 I had in storage ( in fact some of you may remember my reporting that here in my FB page awhile back ) - after talking to the FC guys we determined I most likely applied it too thick AND I had not completely cleaned off any old non FC lubricant. It has been discovered that FC will react and thicken with some other products on the market so a thorough degrease is critical before application. This seems to be more critical with some weapons than others and the 1911 is the poster child. I do have a friend that has applied it on his 1911 as per exact FC instructions and has had no issues at all. I consider this an FYI to all who are using it - on some guns the degreasing before application is absolutely critical so follow the FC instructions closely.

5) FIREClean is in use by U.S. Tier One SOF with excellent results - it's performance in fully automatic weapons and suppressed weapons is without peer; the best I have ever seen or heard of. The fact some internet blogger 'experts' recommended against military use is laughable given its actual performance in the field has been superb. Take those recommendations with a grain of salt and consider the source. As per usual.

At the end of the day I'm impressed with FIREClean's performance and based on the feedback I get from students and others that use it I am not alone. If you want to believe the haters and think Crisco is just as good and FC is overpriced that's fine by me; drive on using whatever you want - won't bother me a bit
As always I stand behind anything I say or post and have an official 'open door ' policy - if you see me at SHOT show or at a class or at the range and you want to discuss this or any other topic in person I'm good with that - come on up, introduce yourself and let's talk
Face to face - like men- not behind a keyboard
Be safe and have a good one
LAV out
 
Also noticed this from his Facebook posted a few hours ago:

Larry Vickers
4 hrs ·


Here is an official statement from FIREClean about the recent allegations that it is nothing more than Crisco ;
We would like to address recent false or misleading allegations that range from simply misguided to false, defamatory, and libelous. These attacks have been made by competitors and others that paint our product in a false or misleading light. The allegations do not focus on actual performance or relevant tests, and draw a misleading picture.

FIREClean™ Advanced Gun Oil is a specifically formulated, technically superior weapon reliability solution that resists the harshest firing with enormous heat and carbon overload that seize most weapons. It is a formulation- made specifically for exceptional reliability in firearms and weapons- not a re-labeled or re-packaged product.

FIREClean™ has been proven in combat in Afghanistan by US Special Operations Forces, and is in use by Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force Special Operations. It is also in use by elements of the FBI, DHS, DEA, CBP, Secret Service, Department of State, various intelligence agencies as well as numerous State and Local Law Enforcement Agencies.

FIREClean™ has been successfully tested on and is in use on weapons from handguns and shotguns to fully automatic and suppressed individual weapons. It has also been successfully tested on and is in use on crew served weapons from 5.56mm M249s to 40mm Automatic Grenade Launchers.
In addition to over 3 years of Combat and Service/Duty usage, FIREClean™ has been used on the competition circuit by the best shooters in the world, including the US Army Marksmanship Unit. It has been used to win multiple National Championships in Pistol, 3 Gun, Sniping, and many other competitive shooting disciplines.

We are proud to be of service to those that bear arms in defense of our freedom, those that serve to keep us safe in our communities, and those that carry firearms for self defense. We are also pleased to be of service to tens of thousands of competitors, hunters, and recreational shooters- all of whom appreciate the highest possible levels of reliability and safety.

We believe that our performance speaks for itself. We offer what we and many others regard as the best, highest performing product on the market. We have not commented on the formulation, nor will we do so now. We have focused on performance, and we will continue to do so.

Rest assured that we will defend our good name against false, defamatory and libelous allegations using the full measure of remedies available to us.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
 
I've got a couple greases and FMO-AW 350 oil from lubriplate. Lifetime supply for what some of these wonder oils charge for a couple tiny bottles.
 
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