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I was reading an article here http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews/wgsfiresight/index.asp
and it looked like a good alternative to the scope mounts I will not be buying anymore largely because of the wealth of information condemning reciever cover scope mounts, and even some negative ones about the scout scope mounts. BTW thanks to all who have tried these various systems and posted reviews.
Anyway, anyone tried these Firesights? If I'm going to be the first (if I can get the sights in Canada), I'll post the scoop in a few months.
Thanks.

http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/rifle1.htm
 
I for one would love a set for my SKS.
Let us know if the Firesight people will ship them to Canada.

The Win 94 I played with a few months back had some...really nice IMHO. :)
I also have a cheap set on my Mossy shotgun, and they work great. :)

Just keep in mind about this point mentioned on the first site...
The front sight is fixed securely and cannot be adjusted. The rear sight has both windage and elevation adjustments.
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I've got some on my SKS and I like it. The glowing dot up front is great.
The distance forward of the rear sight means it needs a big aperature and for me I think it could be even bigger so that the rear sight circle would match the front sight circle.
The aperature that comes with the sight is as big as you can get to screw into the base ring. If you remove the aperature from the base the size is perfect but it's hard to see the rear ring as there is not enough of a border around the ring to define the inner circle.
The best option would be to buy the williams front fire sight without the rear and then order a rear sight from these guys.
http://www.tech-sights.com/
The firesight up front is definately worth it and will work with the standard rear sight until you get a tech-sight.
 
Good link Can-down! :)

IMHO you are right that looks like it could be a way nice aperture sight. :)
It being closer to the eye is much better.
 
With the tech sights, don't you have to take the sights off to take off the receiver cover i.e. clean the rifle (which is OFTEN with the SKS)? I know there are some sights out there that you don't have to re-zero MUCH when you take the sights off, but it just seems to me that the less you have to take off the sights, the better. Right... ?
 
I have had a set for about a year now, they work good much better then the stock sights. Picked mine up a Epps. I think they were around 60ish range.
 
Ok I just called the Williams Firesights people and this one lady very rudely said they doesn't know if they ship to Canada and tried to give me the runaround, saying it's not her department and other such crap. She said there were places in Canada where I could get Firesights. As a side note, I already know P&D doesn't have them and WGP only has the front sights, which are probably kinda difficult to use without a rear aperture sight.

Soooo... I'm thinking Can-Down's idea about front Firesights and rear Tech Sights is the best (and coincidently, only) way to go. Now, I have to see if the Tech sight people will ship into Canada, but I'm thinking yes, because on the testimonials section of their webpage, there is one from a guy in Ontario. Of course, it would heve been nothing for him to go south, pick them up, and come back, but for me, not so easy. Do sights generally make it past the Nazis at the border?

I'll post more once I hear back from Tech Sights.

Cheers.

EDIT: I just looked at the review for Tech sights here http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews2005/skstechsight/index.asp. One piece of info:

"I have been told that some Chinese Norinco SKS carbines may not function properly with the TS100."

Also (from the mouth for the manufacturer)"

"The majority of the problems seem to be with Norincos and not all Norincos. You are right when you guessed that the problem arises when the front sight post has to be lowered so far to zero with the new sight that the sight picture begins to be blocked by the back side of the original leaf sight mounting block. One of our customers merely ground a small radius on the top of the block to allow a better sight picture. It is a puzzle as to why there is a variation, but then someone said that China had over 30 different manufacturers of SKSs. Our new TS200 windage/elevation adjustable model should take care of any of the rifles with higher sight plane and give more adjustability to those who desire it. If you would like to do an article on the TS100 and make a note on the possible issues with rifles having a higher original sight plane that would be great. We want to be as up front as we can about our product. Unfortunately there seem to be a few rifles that do not work well with the TS100 and I believe that TS200 will change that compatibility issue for those rifles."

So, looks like anyone wanting Tech sights on their Norinco is going to have to use the more expensive option just to be safe: A USD$14 difference, to make the rear sight USD$59 plus shipping (if they even ship to Canada). Worth it? Probably. Methinks still worth a try.

Cheers.

EDIT2 Ok, Tech sights ship to Canada. Next time I promise to read everything on the website carefully, ok?
 
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I think the fully adjustable rear option is what you want for sure.
You can center the front post perfectly in the front hood and do all the adjustment for windage and elevation at the rear.
This will make the nicest sight picture possible.
Can't any of the gunshops in Calgary order williams sight sets for your SKS?
 
Probably. WGP has the front Fire sight only, which is fine for me. As per your last post on this thread, I think I'm going the front Fire sight/ rear Tech sight route. Definitely the windage/elevation adjustable sight.
Pity the reciever scope mounts suck, though. I would have liked a red dot sight, but I'm not willing to drill and tap an SKS. Mosin, maybe, but not SKS. Oh well, the setup I mentioned looks sharp (at least, in my minds eye), and like surplusrifles wrote and shows, it simulates a red dot (kinda), plus it doesn't look like Bubba tinkered with it.
 
Tech sights ship here. I bought the TS200 with windage and elev. It's a good system and easy to use. I just centered the front post in the protective ears and adjusted the windage on the rear sight. This gives a better and easier sight picture by being able to include the front sight protecter in the aperture picture. Plus the extra length of sight radius is almost doubled with the Tech setup. It zeros perfectly and I can consistently put rounds into an 18" target at 200yards. That might not sound like much, but it's a vast improvement. I zero the rifle at 25yds which puts it pretty close to dead on at 200yds and about 8"-10" high at a 100. I hear that there is a cross hair insert for the front too,but the fire sight looks interesting
 
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Hey Can-down, how large does the front Fire sight appear in the rear Tech sight? Too big, too small, perfect, almost perfect?
Thanks.
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I don't have the tech rear sight.
I've got the williams SKS set with a firesight front post and a williams adjustable aperature that replaces the original rear sight of the SKS.
These sights were allready on the rifle when I bought it.

The firesight is a nice small orange/red dot that glows bright in daylight.
I've got a similar sight on a Marlin lever action and the SKS dot seems a bit smaller.
 
So, Tech sight wouldn't really work (fit) with a Dragunov stock hey? Unless, of course, you take a hacksaw or grinder to it...

(I speak of course about the part that blocks the receiver cover from coming off).
 
I bought the williams fire sights.

Have them, used them, liked them.

One of the things he mentioned was to push down on the rear sight to pop it out. That didnt work for me, I just put in a screw driver and very gently poped it out. You do need a front sight adjustment tool to push out the barrel of the front sight. I tried using a drift and a hammer, trust me, use the tool.
 
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What do you guys who have the firesight think of it in comparison to a red dot type optic? I really wanna make my SKS an easy to use snap shooter for deer and pig.
 
As stated in the review on Surplusrifles, the sight picture is similar to a red dot sight.

I can't offer a very good opinion as I have also installed the tech sight as a rear sight, not the rear sight included if you get the package. It takes me a bit longer to get a good sight picture, but that might just be my inexperience :D

I don't know why, but I have a feeling the red dot might be allow for faster target aquisition. Just my uneducated opinion.
 
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