Firing shot through rifled barrels: range report with photos

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So I finally got around to firing some shotshells through a rifled shotgun to determine how badly the rifling affects the pattern.

To recap, a few weeks ago there was some discussion on the subject on this forum, and I decided to actually do some testing and report back. So with the help of my lovely and talented assistants Alice (my 870 Marine Magnum; 18" cylinder barrel) and Marla (870 Super Magnum, dressed in her slug barrel for this occasion), I did some shooting and took some pictures.

My conclusion: shooting shot through a rifled barrel is a really bad idea if you are concerned about properly shooting your target. Here's why:

First target: from ten meters, I fired one round of Remington OOO buck (2-3/4", eight pellets) through Alice, and another round of the same stuff through Marla. The pellets from Alice are circled; the pellets from Marla are marked with X's.

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As you can see, all eight pellets shot through Alice impacted the target in the effective zone. Had I been shooting at a live target, say, it would have been quite effectively neutralized (unless, hypothetically, it was wearing ballistic protection).

On the other hand, one pellet from the round fire through Marla's rifled slug barrel struck the target in the ear. The other might have hit the target in the hip if the target had been moderately overweight. Barring freak ricochets from hypothetical earrings, this would not have neutralized the target.

And that was at ten meters; prime range for a shotgun. These results caused me to radically scale back the scope of my experiment.

Next, I fired a Winchester Super-X no.8 target shell through Alice, also from ten meters:
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Note the shot cup embedded in the target. It took a fair tug to pull it out of the Masonite target backing. It kind of makes you feel for #### Whittington; this would have been extremely painful, if not, perhaps, completely incapacitating. Note that the pellets all seem to have struck the torso area of the target.

I then fired another round of the Super-X no.8 at a fresh target from the same distance, and then fired another round of the Remington OOO at the same target from five meters (please disregard the annotation saying the buckshot was fired from ten meters; that was my mistake):

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As you can see, the birdshot, when fired through the slug barrel, dispersed much more rapidly than the same shell fired through the cylinder barrel; many struck the target at head height or beyond. And of the buckshot pellets, even at five meters they've already dispersed to the point where two pellets out of the eight (25%) are off the target, and the remainder have already scattered towards the edge of the target and hit in locations that probably would not have completely neutralized the target.

I'm thinking that the guys who say that the spin imparted by the rifling spins the shot cup, so that the pellets are dispersed into a donut-shaped pattern due to centrifugal force, are right.

As for me, I'm not going to use my rifled barrel for anything other than slugs.
 
Fantastic! This one could be for the history books. I've seen countless threads ask the question, but this is the first time I've ever seen an answer. I think we'll all be referring to this one for a long time to come.

Muchas Gracias!
 
I knew it would be bad, but the photos show just how bad shot through a rifled tube is. Was the slug barrel a fully rifled job or just a rifled choke tube?
 
Thanks for that, we are limited to smooth barrels over here as a rifled barrel would make it a rifle, so it could only be side by side or single shot! A pump or auto would be banned under the 1988 rules which moved multi shot (more than 3) shotguns into section 1 firearms and removed pump and semi auto rifles unless of .22rf.
I suppose I could have used a double rifle!
Oh yes I have a mortgage, thats why I couldnt!
 
TimC said:
Thanks for that, we are limited to smooth barrels over here as a rifled barrel would make it a rifle, so it could only be side by side or single shot! A pump or auto would be banned under the 1988 rules which moved multi shot (more than 3) shotguns into section 1 firearms and removed pump and semi auto rifles unless of .22rf.
I suppose I could have used a double rifle!
Oh yes I have a mortgage, thats why I couldnt!

Wow. That must be really annoying. I love my 870's; I was really cheesed off having to plug the magazine on my Marine Magnum down to two in order to comply with Ontario's hunting arms magazine capacity restrictions...

Mind you, there's nothing wrong at all with a nice double. Mmmm... double shotguns :)
 
I'd tried shooting 3" 00 buck with 15 pellets through my 20" barrel last year at 15 yards at lifesize targets like RDELLIOT's. Nothing hit the target or even the paper. I repeated it twice with the same result. It's sabots or nothing.
 
I still use an 8 shot ithaca 37 for ground game and pest control, just classed as a firearm rather than a shotgun which is simpler in legislation. A lot of guys used to keep SLRs & Brens etc smooth bored and fire ball through them! The 88 act ruled that out!
 
This is a most informative thread!

I'd still be very interested to see the effects of a rifled choke tube on birdshot, as I have read of one person who was inspired by stories of the British Paradox rifles of yesteryear into affixing some homemade sights onto an H&R Topper and putting in a rifled tube. He apparently got good performance with slugs and close to IC performance with 7 1/2 shot, making it his all-round backup gun. If I could get a rifled choke tube for my Savage 24, I would take it to the patterning board in hopes of duplicating such a feat! If the gun were able to pattern well with steel shot it would be all that I need, though I don't think I'll be paterning steel through a rifled tube anytime soon!

The Paradox rifles of Britain's colonial past were double barrelled smoothbores up to the last few inches that were rifled near the muzzle. They were meant to shoot single projectiles at big game and birdshot for wingshooting, and were popular with army officers and civil servants in the farther reaches of the Empire. They were meant to serve as one gun for everything from doves to Cape Buffalo!
 
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