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what do you suggest...looking because it will be my 1st rifle...looking for cost effective....something somewhat decent:runaway:
 
Assuming that being your 1st, that you have liitle/no shooting experience. I would recomend a bolt action, possibly even a single shot for a 1st rifle. Reason being that IMO you should focus on learning shooting skills and safe gun handling. Both of which IMO are better served by a non-autoloading rifle.
Knowing that you only have ONE shot that you have to make count, has made many a deadly marksman. But if you know a second chance is only a trigger pull away, people tend to get sloppy.
Want to throw lead, or become a marksman?
1st things 1st IMO. This will be your 1st rifle. Doesn't have to be the only. You can upgrade to an autoloader after you've learned the shooting skills.
 
I'll back Fatstrat. Look into a Savage MKI single shot. Great for learning the ropes. Accuracy by volume does not make you a good shot. That's a skill you have to learn, one shot at a time. Or you can prove your a Canadian and pick up an old Cooey off the EE. These make very nice rifles and a good project. Strip it, refinish it and enjoy it. There is no better feeling than knowing you can deliver that one well placed shot, with a nice looking rifle.
 
starting out all over again, 10/22- you can always just load 1 in the mag and use it as a single, and proper dicipline will get you to the same place as a bolt single shot- the thing to remember is as you advance, that single 22 is going to be sold somewhere along the line , and you're not going to get much for it unless it's a target rifle or something- your 10/22, however, can stay with you forever and you can modify it as needed as you advance-
with the single load , the only thing you're missing is opening the bolt and re-cocking each shot-however, if you follow the dicipline-put in mag, pull bolt to rear and let go, then go into your sights and fire, then apply safety religiously, there's no need to buy a 22 twice unless you want to
the gun i learned on was a cooey 22 repeater( somebody elses)which was all about safety at the time, however there was also a 22 cooey that you had to pull the bolt rear back AFTER you'd chambered the round- this teaches you an extra step you'll never need again and possibly a bad habit that's going to cost you if you're shooting rabbits or something quick- keep it simple and you'll be fine- if you must have a 22 bolt, get a good used cooey
 
However there was also a 22 cooey that you had to pull the bolt rear back AFTER you'd chambered the round- this teaches you an extra step you'll never need again and possibly a bad habit that's going to cost you if you're shooting rabbits or something quick- keep it simple and you'll be fine- if you must have a 22 bolt, get a good used cooey

Your thinking the Mohawk. A rifle that sold by the tens of thousands and taught as many the proper ways of shooting with no bad habits afterwards. By dropping the mag, loading a single shot and thinking it's a single shot is nonsense. Anyone with a high capacity autoloader will no doubt be learning the more lead in the air, the more accuracy can be achieved. Buy a shotgun then. Better groups than a 10/22, IMHO.
 
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My first gun which was given to me at 8 ...was already a "used" cooey single....it still graces my "gathering".....Having to pull the bolt back before shooting taught me to "hunt", not to hurry or jumpshoot. Many a rabbit ended up in the pot persay, and patience developed accuracy. there are many singles on EE and I agree with Fatstrat...also if you decide that you do not like the sport, then you are out very little.
 
:welcome: to the site Bravo

For your first gun I would probably get a bolt action. They are more accurate (in general), and teaches the fundaments of shooting, etc. They also kind of make you "make each shot count"

It really depends on how much you want to pay for this first gun of yours. If I were you I would get something that is fairly good so that you are not having to replace it later. A really good gun to get at a very reasonable price would be a CZ 452. Very accurate, reliable, durable, etc. A buddy of mine (also a member of this site) bought a Savage mark II and he started having troubles with it. He sent it back - in fact 3 times in all until eventually just said the heck with it and got a CZ 453. He likes that gun a lot more and it is more accurate.

Please let us know how you make out :)
 
I think it depends on what you mean by cost effective.

Right now you can pick up a norinco jw25A from leverarms for $100.00. I got mine yesterday and I'm actually kind of surprised at the quality. It's definately not the most refined gun out there but it's a decent shooter. On the plus side with all the grease that they pack them in you'll learn how to srtip and clean it in a hurry. That's on of the most neglected skills a noob should learn.

Anything cheaper than that will most likely be used. You can pick up an old cooey repeater for under $100.00.

If you are like me when I was starting out you probably just want to shoot lots and lots without spending too much money. I bought a 10/22 and it's still my favourite gun. Mossberg, Marlin, Savage, and Remington all make some decent guns out there for less than the cost of the Ruger.
 
You can always get an inexpensive, used boltie on the E&E and pay for an entry-level semi at the same time:

"this is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for training, and this is for fun..."

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10/22. As soon as my papers come in im on my way to grab one. i already have a bull barrel and evo stock coming :D

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I know this will upset the Zelots, but why don't you get something that's accurate? I'm not telling you sould buy x or y but a bolt action repeater from a manufacture know to be accurate and/or reliable might be best... Winchester (cooey), CZ, anschutz, and many others will teach you a hell of a lot more than high-caps and folding stocks... Don't get me wrong, I don't see anything wrong with either as I have them too, just they aren't what I would call condusive to 'learning the ropes'...
 
May I stick my opinion here too. As mentioned by many, accuracy is the name of the game, entry level 10/22 isn't very good investment, by the time you make it shoot reasonably well it will be above 600$ mark at least. Boltie all the way. I remember me buying used semi-auto and I also remeber embarassment when I poked fresh hole in our clubhouse ceiling, they need some extra attention to safety aspects - get bolt action and be happy. I have Savage MkII and its an excellent one, maybe I am just lucky. I had CZ in my hands today and it looked good and nice finish, action is a bit clunkier and moves with a bit more friction than my Savage but I think it is still good. I also have seen that Norinco 99$ rifle at leverarms - not too bad at all, after all its only 100$. Most likely you will end up with more than one 22 rifles, I have 5 myself after just over a year of getting back into shooting sports, so what you buy now is not very important. Get something inexpensive, maybe used bolt action rifle. Or maybe - how about if you just go to the big gun store and get lost in there for a while? I mean at least you will see what you are getting and make decision based on what you feel and see, rather than somebody's advice. Some gun store keepers could be a good source of information, most of them are not new to shooting sports.
 
You really need to try a bone stock 10-22 and try to find a reason that you want to buy one. I've been there, bought a 10-22 like everyone suggested ....lucky me I sold that gun shortly.

Trigun
 
I didn't really want to suggest a semi as a first .22 but hey my first .22 was a winchester 77... so if it must be a semi I strongly recommend a Remington m597, plain jane, can be had for <$200 new and is accurate out of the box, at least mine is. At 20 yards (indoor range) I can put 5 rounds through an oblong hole. Not quite as good as my 30 year old single shot anschutz but still very impressive. But I still recommend a better quality bolt action repeater, spend a few hundred and you'll have a rifle you can shoot your whole life...
 
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