First AR15.

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New to the restricted scene, looking to build a PDW ar15. Looking at the 7.5 uppers with magpul parts.

Budget is $2000 any suggestions to send me looking for the best possible product for the money.
 
Noveske is that a quality brand of AR upper? Looking at the 8" but it's in a .300. DMPS have been a suggested upper from associates.
 
Noveske is one of the top end brands, well known for their barrels, as they make some of the best. They are rather fancy pieces of kit though, and expensive to boot.

DPMS is, well, alright… pretty far from a Noveske I would say...

A little more info as to your intended usage may help some point you in the right direction… ie: do you just want to blast paper? Are you looking for good accuracy, probably not with a 7.5” barrel? Do you want a military quality rifle? Good value? How much use you figure it will get? Hard use? Do you care how pretty it is?
 
Noveske makes a 7.5 inch barrel. I have a Noveske/vltor hybrid. But since Noveske uses Vltor upper receivers I went wit using the vltor mur 1 for my boss.
 
You are right, accuracy is not a intended purpose of this build. Who is one of the many dealers who stocks quality AR uppers? Questar

Noveske 7.5 Diplomat.
PWS MK107 7.00".

Good lowers?
 
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have you shot the short barreld ARs before? they make a hell of a bang and flash. not the funnest gun to shoot indoors.
i dont want you to be put off by ARs if you havent shot one before. once you get to 14"+ they become more manageable.
 
Well, I think it bears mentioning but P&D Enterprises has Windham Weaponry rifles in stock, Windham was created by the guy behind Bushmaster. Probably one of the best deals I know about these days for a North American AR.

I would recommend getting the lower receiver first, as they are fairly universal, and also it helps get the hassle of registration out of the way so you'll be able to bring it out as soon as it's done. I myself just got a custom engraved lower from Motiuk Manufacturing, and I'm really loving it. I installed the lower part kit over last night and tonight, in all it took maybe three hours for me to watch a whole bunch of videos and read some guides and get the parts sorted out. The amusing part is that the guide said installing the front takedown pin was one of the hardest parts and recommended buying a special installation tool. I installed it with my finger in about ten seconds. As for really short barrels, I would say try before you buy if you can. At least something in the mid length size so that you can get a feel for it before you go supershort.

It's pretty much guaranteed that there's someone at your local range that would be happy to let you try theirs out for a bit if you pay for some ammo.
 
im trying to get my first ar 15 , looking like a year wait if at all possible for a rock river arms ar-15 elite operator 2....any suggestions to get one quicker????
 
have you shot the short barreld ARs before? they make a hell of a bang and flash. not the funnest gun to shoot indoors.
i dont want you to be put off by ARs if you havent shot one before. once you get to 14"+ they become more manageable.

I haven't shot a short barreled AR15 before. I'm aware of the noise and muzzle flash, it's going to be a safe queen more or less. My zombie invasion gun even! How far could a guy reach out with a 7.5 Inch barrel anyways. A Daneil Defense 10" is looking pretty good with as well.
 
Noveske is one of the top end brands, well known for their barrels, as they make some of the best. They are rather fancy pieces of kit though, and expensive to boot.

DPMS is, well, alright… pretty far from a Noveske I would say...

A little more info as to your intended usage may help some point you in the right direction… ie: do you just want to blast paper? Are you looking for good accuracy, probably not with a 7.5” barrel? Do you want a military quality rifle? Good value? How much use you figure it will get? Hard use? Do you care how pretty it is?

Barrel length has very little to do with accuracy. In fact shorter barrels are inherently more accurate due to their length they are a stiffer barrel which reduces barrel harmonics known as barrel whip. Barrel length directly effects velocity which becomes a factor at distance when referencing accuracy.

Tdc
 
Barrel length has very little to do with accuracy. In fact shorter barrels are inherently more accurate due to their length they are a stiffer barrel which reduces barrel harmonics known as barrel whip. Barrel length directly effects velocity which becomes a factor at distance when referencing accuracy.

Tdc

Please correct me if I'm wrong. I was told the more a bullet can spin from the rifling in the barrel the straighter the line of flight. ex: a football being thrown a perfect spiral pass. Hence why long range rifles have long barrels. I also see how a shorter barrel may be stiffer for barrel whip. But if I'm wrong about the rifling please explain. (Honest question)
 
I haven't shot a short barreled AR15 before. I'm aware of the noise and muzzle flash, it's going to be a safe queen more or less. My zombie invasion gun even! How far could a guy reach out with a 7.5 Inch barrel anyways. A Daneil Defense 10" is looking pretty good with as well.

It's not just the noise & flash but also the blast. The shooter doesn't realize it as much but anybody besides you will be in pain. If you do want to use a short gun and not irritate buddies, use the cone type hiders like Noveske Krink KX3

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