First game down with the 290 gr Matrix in his 9.3X62 CZ.
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There is certainly nothing wrong with the KKSP bullets. They were perhaps the best cup and core hunting bullets produced in their day, and also made in Canada.
As for the Matrix, here's another one, a 286 gr RN that also retained over 90% original weight.
They were round nose, made for and loaded in the 308 Winchester. Absolute hammers in that round!
I am just thankful we have a few good bullet makers here again.
Ted
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Northman999
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Hey, I know that guy!
Actually I'm supposed to be making some 9.3 cast bullets with him this winter.
Great results with those Matrix bullets!
Nice to see he got his moose!
Actually I'm supposed to be making some 9.3 cast bullets with him this winter.
Great results with those Matrix bullets!
Nice to see he got his moose!
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worth reading i think.
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worth reading i think.
Yes, those are terrific bullets for retaining weight.
I didn't mean to intimate that old KKSP were as good. My remark about the end result being the same, was meant to mean the moose would be dead, with either the large calibre and super bullet, or with a 30-06 and Dominion KKSP ammo.
Bruce
My 9.3X62 is coming together. My goal is a 400 yard elk rifle that will impress a 40' grizzly.
I am coin tossing between the 250 and 270 grain Matrix.
Has anyone used these bullets at range? They are obviously splendid up close, but how do they expand once velocity drops? Do they open as well at 1600 fps?
I am coin tossing between the 250 and 270 grain Matrix.
Has anyone used these bullets at range? They are obviously splendid up close, but how do they expand once velocity drops? Do they open as well at 1600 fps?
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Rick,
When I get back home, I will try and get to the range to do some water testing at the 300 meters pig rail on our silhouette range. Not the same as recovering bullets from game, but we can compare them with others water-tested at close range such as this one that was recovered.
The only difference besides range will be that the water will be near freezing, therefore it will not be as dense.
Ted
When I get back home, I will try and get to the range to do some water testing at the 300 meters pig rail on our silhouette range. Not the same as recovering bullets from game, but we can compare them with others water-tested at close range such as this one that was recovered.
The only difference besides range will be that the water will be near freezing, therefore it will not be as dense.
Ted
BigUglyMan
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Water is at it's densest point at 4C. So I guess it depends how long it takes you to get back to the line from 300m.
I'm interested in seeing how they perform as they slow down as well, though I'm guessing the results will be entirely satisfactory.
It's not so much how long it takes to get back to the line from 300 meters, as how long it takes to get from the house to the range in the box of the pickup at -10C
Ted
I have to say that, upon Ted's experiences, I recommended Matrix bullets to a friend of mine. He had a .300 H&H built on a Stiller action with Pac-Nor barrel and McMillan stock. He ordered a bunch of 178gr .308" and found them to be..."lacking"...in the accuracy department. By that I mean 1.5" groups at 100 yards with numerous powders. He is now using 200gr Accubonds and getting 2.5" groups at 500 yards - certainly not required for hunting, but both those bullets and the 180 Ballistic Tips were averaging groups about 1/3 the size of the Matrix bullets. It has made me a bit "gun-shy" as I wanted to try out his 190gr 7mm offering.
This is an 18 shot group at 500 yds with matrix .270 cal bullets, with the pervious group it would have been 26 consecutive shots into less than 2" at 500 yds.
Also have a record from Williamsport PA at 1000yd.
LOL I don't think I'd like you show casing Matrix bullets!
Also have a record from Williamsport PA at 1000yd.
LOL I don't think I'd like you show casing Matrix bullets!
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It's not so much how long it takes to get back to the line from 300 meters, as how long it takes to get from the house to the range in the box of the pickup at -10C
Ted
for sure when you willo be back the water will be freezing ....January will be a long wait.
Rick,
When I get back home, I will try and get to the range to do some water testing at the 300 meters pig rail on our silhouette range. Not the same as recovering bullets from game, but we can compare them with others water-tested at close range such as this one that was recovered.
The only difference besides range will be that the water will be near freezing, therefore it will not be as dense.
Ted
Ted,
i provide accubond, partition and hornady for the test then we ll get a complete comparaison ...
Bigfoot 870
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Moose meat and mushrooms, I love that
bigborefan
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I dunno about that statement... I used the 286 Hornady on a wounded bear (wounded by a young, novice hunter) and it worked fine. At an impact of nearly 2400 fps behind the (R) ribs it made exit at the back of the skull after taking out 3-inches of vertebrae, leaving about a 3/4" hole in the thick folds of hide and fur at the back of the neck. No pieces found inside, so the bullet left intact, by all evidences, at least.
But, for my personal use, it's the 286 Partition for everything from wolf to moose.
Bob
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